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    17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    [size=13pt]17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too[/size]

    Picking 10 spots lower, Vikings still hope to nab impact player
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    Re: 17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    Especially if its Kenny Phillips or Reggie Smith.
    Crossing fingers and toes on that one.
    If Brohm falls to us though, well, I won't know what to think.
    He is definitely better than either of our backups and would immediately push TJack for the starting role.
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    Re: 17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    Kiper said this year's draft is strong at offensive tackle, deep at quarterback, pretty good at cornerback, OK at running back, wide receiver and defensive line, average at linebacker and weak at safety.
    Finally, something Kiper and I agree on.

    Take one of the 3 impact safeties at 17.
    DE at 2
    CB at 3a
    DT at 3b

    Use your remaing picks on RB, LB, QB.

    Sign a FA S, DE and WR.
    Problem solved.
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    Re: 17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Kiper said this year's draft is strong at offensive tackle, deep at quarterback, pretty good at cornerback, OK at running back, wide receiver and defensive line, average at linebacker and weak at safety.
    Finally, something Kiper and I agree on.

    Take one of the 3 impact safeties at 17.
    DE at 2
    CB at 3a
    DT at 3b

    Use your remaing picks on RB, LB, QB.

    Sign a FA S, DE and WR.
    Problem solved.
    ;D
    And a partich in a pear tree....

    j/k - I was thinking along the same lines as you, with the exception of a potential WR pick rather than DT; unless FA solves that for us.


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    Re: 17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    "ThorSPL" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Kiper said this year's draft is strong at offensive tackle, deep at quarterback, pretty good at cornerback, OK at running back, wide receiver and defensive line, average at linebacker and weak at safety.
    Finally, something Kiper and I agree on.

    Take one of the 3 impact safeties at 17.
    DE at 2
    CB at 3a
    DT at 3b

    Use your remaing picks on RB, LB, QB.

    Sign a FA S, DE and WR.
    Problem solved.

    ;D
    And a partich in a pear tree....

    j/k - I was thinking along the same lines as you, with the exception of a potential WR pick rather than DT; unless FA solves that for us.
    With roughly 15-20 Mil in CAP space (might be more based on what Z found) we should be able to sign a FA WR, S and DE.

    Won't change my picks though.
    Still definately believe we need to get 2 impact player for DE and S.
    One via FA and one via Draft.
    WR we still have 2 very young WRs in Rice and Allison.
    No need to draft more youth, just get a guy to play next to them and B-wade.
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    Re: 17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Kiper said this year's draft is strong at offensive tackle, deep at quarterback, pretty good at cornerback, OK at running back, wide receiver and defensive line, average at linebacker and weak at safety.
    Finally, something Kiper and I agree on.

    Take one of the 3 impact safeties at 17.
    DE at 2
    CB at 3a
    DT at 3b

    Use your remaing picks on RB, LB, QB.

    Sign a FA S, DE and WR.
    Problem solved.

    ;D
    So you think they should draft by need? I think they need to take the best player available, it worked pretty good last year.

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    Re: 17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Kiper said this year's draft is strong at offensive tackle, deep at quarterback, pretty good at cornerback, OK at running back, wide receiver and defensive line, average at linebacker and weak at safety.
    Finally, something Kiper and I agree on.

    Take one of the 3 impact safeties at 17.
    DE at 2
    CB at 3a
    DT at 3b

    Use your remaing picks on RB, LB, QB.

    Sign a FA S, DE and WR.
    Problem solved.

    ;D
    So you think they should draft by need? I think they need to take the best player available, it worked pretty good last year.
    Believe it or not I believe that whichever S is available at 17 is the BPA.
    There will be options at DE (Harvey) but you can get a guy almost as good as him in the 2nd.

    Take a look at the top 100 and read some of the Mocks coming out of the guys who do it for a living (doesn't make it more real however) and you will see how they all fall out.

    Again, not saying I am a expert or anything but if you look at how I have it going, there will be two of the to S's and several DE's still available (BPA) for us to take. At that point you then look at need as the deciding factor to what you do.

    I still need to work this, however, some things still up in the air, will Denver go CB or S in the first one.
    Doesn't really matter as you then shift one of the other 2 top ranked safeties up to us.

    Chris Ellis is no slouch and any of the DE in the 2nd round could/would be there for us to pick when all the good safeties would be gone.

    Again, that isn't that far off from drafting BPA in my eyes.

    No. Team Round 1
    1 Miami Dolphins Sedrick Ellis, DT
    2 St. Louis Rams Jake Long, OT
    3 Atlanta Falcons # Matt Ryan, QB
    4 Oakland Raiders # Chris Long, DE
    5 Kansas City Chiefs # Glen Dorsey, DT
    6 New York Jets Darren, McFadden, RB
    7 New England Patriots (from 49ers) Gohlston, Vernon, OLB/DE
    8 Baltimore Ravens Brian Brohm, QB
    9 Cincinnati Bengals Jackson, Lawrence, DE
    10 New Orleans Saints Dan Connor, LB
    11 Buffalo Bills Limas Sweed, WR
    12 Denver Broncos Aqip Talib, CB
    13 Carolina Panthers Phillip Merling, DE
    14 Chicago Bears Ryan Clady, OT
    15 Detroit Lions Leodis McKelvin, CB
    16 Arizona Cardinals Sam Baker, OT
    17 Minnesota Vikings Reggie Smith, CB/S
    18 Houston Texans Mike Jenkins, CB
    19 Philadelphia Eagles Desean Jackson, WR/KR
    20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers * Kieth Rivers, LB
    21 Washington Redskins * Dominique Rogers-Cromartie S
    22 Dallas Cowboys (from Browns) * Malcom Kelly, WR
    23 Pittsburgh Steelers * Gosder Cherilus, OT
    24 Tennessee Titans * Mario Manningham, WR
    25 Seattle Seahawks * Chris Williams, OT
    26 Jacksonville Jaguars * Quentin Groves, DE
    27 San Diego Chargers * Derek Harvey, DE/OLB
    28 Dallas Cowboys * Kenny Phillips, S
    29 San Francisco 49ers (from Colts) * Early Doucet, WR
    30 Green Bay Packers * Tracy Porter, CB
    31 New England Patriots * No Pick
    32 New York Giants * Jeff Otah, OT

    33 Miami Dolphins Joe Flacco, QB
    34 St. Louis Rams Calais Campbell, DE
    35 Atlanta Falcons # Jonathan Stewart RB
    36 Kansas City Chiefs # Bruce Davis, OLB/DE
    37 New York Jets Calais Campbell, DE
    38 Oakland Raiders # Adarious Bowman, WR
    39 Baltimore Ravens Curtis Loften LB
    40 San Francisco 49ers Chris Johnson, RB
    41 New Orleans Saints Trevor Laws, DT
    42 Buffalo Bills Erin Henderson, LB
    43 Denver Broncos James Hardy, WR
    44 Carolina Panthers Rashad, Mendenhall, RB
    45 Chicago Bears Chad Henne, QB
    46 Detroit Lions Felix Jones, RB
    47 Cincinnati Bengals Fred Davis, TE
    48 Minnesota Vikings Chris Ellis, DE
    49 Atlanta Falcons Patrick Lee, CB
    50 Philadelphia Eagles Brandon Flowers, CB
    51 Arizona Cardinals Ali Highsmith, LB
    52 Washington Redskins * Malcom Jenkins, CB
    53 Tampa Bay Buccaneers * Donnie Avery, WR
    54 Pittsburgh Steelers * Terrell Thomas, CB
    55 Tennessee Titans * Pat Sims, , DT
    56 Seattle Seahawks * Kevin Smith, RB
    57 Cleveland Browns Darrell Robertson, DE
    58 Miami Dolphins Roy Schuening, OG
    59 Jacksonville Jaguars Josh Morgan, WR
    60 Indianapolis Colts Jeremy Thompson, DE/OLB
    61 Green Bay Packers * Jamaal Charles, RB
    62 Dallas Cowboys * Carl Nicks, OT
    63 New England Patriots * Justin King, CB
    64 New York Giants * Jonathan Goff, LB

    Of course you could be one of those guys who always look to draft a QB or WR in the first round but again, based on Team needs, the depth at those positions in this draft, you wait for a later round and get a guy if you need him.
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    Re: 17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    Hey Marr.. where Charles Godfrey, CB from Iowa? Not a pick in the first two rounds, kid can play S or CB?

    http://hawkeyesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/godfrey_charles00.html

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    Re: 17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    Disagree with you mock.
    No way Smith goes ahead of Phillips.
    Just don't see that happening.
    However, I agree that the smartest move is to take safety in the first and DE in the second.
    There will be talent there in the 2nd round at DE for sure.
    No safety left.

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    Re: 17th pick in NFL draft can be sweet, too

    Its still my hope that we draft two safeties and two defensive lineman (one DE, one DT) with out first 4 picks. We need a starting safety, we need a backup/future replacement for Sharper, we need a backup/future replacement for Pat Williams, and obviously with Udeze out we need another DE.

    But it depends how active we are in free agency. If we pick up a DE like Justin Smith, then defensive end obviously wont be a need. The same thing goes for WR. It all depends on what happens in free agency.

    Overall I agree though, I think that in the first round, a DB is going to be the BPA, while in the second round a defensive lineman will be. There are also going to be a lot of really good receivers in the second round.

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