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    Re: Wisconsin court praises drunken concert goer

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    Ha... f'n cops.


    Calm down Paul, it is just a joke.

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    Re: Wisconsin court praises drunken concert goer

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    Ha... f'n cops.


    Calm down Paul, it is just a joke.
    Haha... the should have just arrested the kid for being a Dave Matthews fan.
    Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.

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    Re: Wisconsin court praises drunken concert goer

    "C" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    Ha... f'n cops.


    Calm down Paul, it is just a joke.
    Haha... the should have just arrested the kid for being a Dave Matthews fan.
    +1, I hate them.

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    Re: Wisconsin court praises drunken concert goer

    What's he complaining about. He got a ride in the end after all!

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    Re: Wisconsin court praises drunken concert goer

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    I agree, this is entrapment.
    The driver made a good decision not to drive.
    I guess I am not as familiar with WI laws, but when I was a police officer, we were liable if we instructed an intoxicated person to drive.
    That was one of the reasons that we never had them pull the car off the road if we thought they were drunk.
    Either they gave us permission to move it, or we towed it...

    But I wonder at the 60 days in jail sentence.
    Is there more to this case then is being told?
    That seems REALLY high.
    Yes they are liable, and it was truly a foolish move on the officers part.

    But a bigger question is raised IMO.. why didn't he address the fact that an under age person was intoxicated int he first place? The law in Wisconsin doesn't put the burden on the officer to witness the offender getting drunk or high.. just the fact that they are is enough to ticket him and call for a sober person to pick him up.. then tow the car if someone sober can't drive it.

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    Re: Wisconsin court praises drunken concert goer

    "pack93z" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    I agree, this is entrapment.
    The driver made a good decision not to drive.
    I guess I am not as familiar with WI laws, but when I was a police officer, we were liable if we instructed an intoxicated person to drive.
    That was one of the reasons that we never had them pull the car off the road if we thought they were drunk.
    Either they gave us permission to move it, or we towed it...

    But I wonder at the 60 days in jail sentence.
    Is there more to this case then is being told?
    That seems REALLY high.
    Yes they are liable, and it was truly a foolish move on the officers part.

    But a bigger question is raised IMO.. why didn't he address the fact that an under age person was intoxicated int he first place? The law in Wisconsin doesn't put the burden on the officer to witness the offender getting drunk or high.. just the fact that they are is enough to ticket him and call for a sober person to pick him up.. then tow the car if someone sober can't drive it.
    As is the case in most states.
    Just by the virtue of him being in the car, having access to the keys, and being drunk makes him guilty of DUI by Actual Physical Possession (which is a law I disagree with, but understand why it is there).
    At that point, the cop should have either arrested him for DUI or told him to call a sober ride and have the car towed, the latter option being the one I would have done.
    Giving an intoxicated person a lawful order to move his vehicle in any way is in itself an illegal act.
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