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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    I'd say the US leads the world in manufacturing because they specialize in making bigger, more complex and expensive items.

    Cars, Boats, Computers, Software, planes, industrial machinery, etc.

    Big 'manufacturing' countries like China, Japan, etc. for the most part make a whole lot of cheaper good. Japan, obviously has alot of tech and automobile manufacturing, but China, not so much.

    Since US has far fewer manufacturing jobs, but much more output, they are far more efficient. I bet if they had to buy the small items in America only, it would work both ways.

    yes, they'd open up factories to make their own goods, much like back in the 1900s when the bulk of stuff used in the US was made in the US.

    That means a few things. Large corporations profits will be down. They have to account for larger costs associated with mroe expensive production labor.

    However, more people are being paid a decent wage, and ideally unemployment would decrease. Will those people be able to afford the now much more expensive items? A computer that costs $600 might now be $900.

    Obviously, me not being an economics major, I can't comment much on that other than just my thoughts, would be an interesting to see how that would turn out.

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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    Quote Originally Posted by "Traveling_Vike" #1098173
    You Canadians can have all of your stuff back except for Tim Horton's.

    :lol:
    screw you guys, we're taking our Timmy's and going home.

    You can have Shittatle, Starcrap and Dunkin 'tastes like a urinary tract infection' donuts.

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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1098175
    Quote Originally Posted by "Traveling_Vike" #1098173
    You Canadians can have all of your stuff back except for Tim Horton's.

    :lol:
    screw you guys, we're taking our Timmy's and going home.

    You can have Shittatle, Starcrap and Dunkin 'tastes like a urinary tract infection' donuts.
    We do have Tim Horton's going for us.
    We're bringing purple back.

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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    Quote Originally Posted by "Traveling_Vike" #1098173
    You Canadians can have all of your stuff back except for Tim Horton's.

    :lol:
    You have to keep Celine Dion in Vegas too :P

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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    Quote Originally Posted by "vikinggreg" #1098184
    Quote Originally Posted by "Traveling_Vike" #1098173
    You Canadians can have all of your stuff back except for Tim Horton's.

    :lol:
    You have to keep Celine Dion in Vegas too :P
    We'll give you justin bieber if you like

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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1098191
    Quote Originally Posted by "vikinggreg" #1098184
    Quote Originally Posted by "Traveling_Vike" #1098173
    You Canadians can have all of your stuff back except for Tim Horton's.

    :lol:
    You have to keep Celine Dion in Vegas too :P
    We'll give you justin bieber if you like
    And Jim Carey. I never liked him.
    We're bringing purple back.

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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    Take Shania Twain back too. She is all used up.

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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1098196
    Take Shania Twain back too. She is all used up.
    Oh we'll take her back and Randy Quaid is heading back south but Pamela Anderson Lee has to stay in the US as she has had so much California silicon and botox in her she's now made in the USA

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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    Quote Originally Posted by "vikinggreg" #1098197
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1098196
    Take Shania Twain back too. She is all used up.
    Oh we'll take her back and Randy Quaid is heading back south but Pamela Anderson Lee has to stay in the US as she has had so much California silicon and botox in her she's now made in the USA
    Fine,

    But for the time being we are keeping Elisha Cuthbert :P

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    Re: What We'd Lose if We Had to Buy Only American

    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1098124
    Quote Originally Posted by "BadlandsVikings" #1098103
    Legions of patriotic Americans look for "made in USA" stickers before buying products, out of a desire to support the country's economy.

    But what if we all were restricted to purchasing only those goods that were made in America?

    Our homes would be stripped virtually bare of........
    http://money.msn.com/how-to-budget/what-if-you-had-to-buy-american.aspx?gt1=33029
    So many elements were left out of that article so that the author could write a pro-import piece...

    The problem we face is that the cost of living here is much higher than in China, India, or Taiwan. Those places also don't have things like US taxes, FICA, EPA, or OSHA. Put that all together, and the companies manufacturing over there are paying a LOT less for labor...and pocketing it all as pure profit.

    The author tried to argue that, "There's no question that U.S. manufacturers employ far fewer people now -- about 11.7 million in April -- than when the sector peaked at 19.6 million workers in 1979. But the decline in jobs is largely due to technological advances that have reduced the number of workers needed to run factories, Perry and Fisher pointed out.", but I dispute that. General Motors shipped most of it's jobs from Janesville to Silao, Mexico. General Electric reduced it's US workforce by 5000 jobs...but increased it's overseas workforce by - you guessed it - 5000 jobs.

    While technological improvements have played a part, they didn't administer the killing blow that NAFTA did.

    The truth is, the "Free Trade" agreements only benefit the manufacturers. If I can ship my products anywhere, without tarrifs or fees, then it makes financial sense to go where the manufacturing COSTS are cheapest...and that ain't here.

    There are reasons why 95% of the wealth in America is in 3% of the hands...after all, how many $10,000-per-plate fund raisers have YOU gone to? Between big business, big oil, and big finance, we're screwed.

    Caine
    Which is why I'm retiring in the Philippines as Ned has done.

    The labor rates is so low in those counties, it's unbelievable. My employer TRW, has a factory in Mexico just to reap those cheap rates & even in those countries there's still stiff competition.

    It's not uncommon for a TRW employee in Mexico to go out for lunch, be offered another job on the street for a few pennies more per hour at the factory across the street, He'll take that job on the spot, starting there right after his lunch, never to go back to TRW. That is why TRW & other companies have a cafeteria in them, so the laborers don't go out to lunch.

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