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    Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hof07/news/story?id=2725461

    And Mark McGwire was named on only 23% of ballots.

    Cal Ripken Jr.
    537
    98.5

    Tony Gwynn
    532
    97.6

    Rich Gossage
    388
    71.2

    Jim Rice
    346
    63.5

    Andre Dawson
    309
    56.7

    Bert Blyleven
    260
    47.7

    Lee Smith
    217
    39.8

    Jack Morris
    202
    37.1

    Mark McGwire
    128
    23.5

    Tommy John
    125
    22.9

    Steve Garvey
    115
    21.1

    Dave Concepcion
    74
    13.6

    Alan Trammell
    73
    13.4

    Dave Parker
    62
    11.4

    Don Mattingly
    54
    9.9

    Dale Murphy
    50
    9.2

    Harold Baines
    29
    5.3

    Orel Hershiser
    24
    4.4

    Albert Belle
    19
    3.5

    Paul O'Neill
    12
    2.2

    Bret Saberhagen
    7
    1.3

    Jose Canseco
    6
    1.1

    Tony Fernandez
    4
    0.7

    Dante Bichette
    3
    0.6

    Eric Davis
    3
    0.6

    Bobby Bonilla
    2
    0.4

    Ken Caminiti
    2
    0.4

    Jay Buhner
    1
    0.2

    Scott Brosius
    0
    0

    Wally Joyner
    0
    0

    Devon White
    0
    0

    Bobby Witt
    0
    0


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    Re: Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    I'm bracing myself for all of the Ripken man love we're going to get in Central Pa. over the next few days. EVERYONE down here is a freakin Orioles fan...Ripken is a god!
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    I agree he should be in with 19 All-Star appearances and the consecutive games record, but the media needs to get off his willy in this area.

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    Re: Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    McGwire got hosed.
    Never cheated the game in anyway.
    And the BS about the ball being juiced in 1998.
    Well, you know what, that means about 300 other guys were hitting a juiced ball, not just him.
    There's a few other people that I'm surprised to see getting such a low percentage, as well as several that I'm extremely surprised to see on the list at all.
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    Re: Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    Bonds and McGwire kept getting bigger in ways we're "not sure of".
    Gwynn got bigger in the the gut and still could play.
    Glad to see he made it.

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    Re: Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    I'm glad McGwire didn't get in...that guy was all about roids and denial.
    Screw him.
    Gwynn is a model of consistency, glad he's in.
    Ripken deserves the accolades he receives...I'm just glad i don't have to listen to them.
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    Re: Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    Congrats to both of these guys! They are both class acts and were great players to watch through the late 80's and 90's.

    I get the most pissed off looks from people with my VKG 4 LFE Wisconsin license plate, and I LOVE IT!!

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    Re: Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    Jose Canseco didn't get in either!
    DANG!!!!


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    Re: Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    Yeah, I'm stunned Canseco and McGwire didn't get in. He!! I'm stunned Palmeiro wasn't an early vote in!! lol

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    Re: Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    OK, McGwire got bigger as he got older.


    When I was 18 I weighed about 185, I now weigh about 220 and I've been as high as 245.
    I'm 27.
    I never took steroids, but I got much bigger and much stronger.


    McGwire was a professional athlete, with I'm sure a much better routine than mine, and had the resources to hire an expert personal trainer.
    He also admitted to using creatine and androstenidone (sp?).
    Both of which are not steroids and are not banned substances, and never were banned substances.


    It is possible for someone to get stronger without steroids, regardless of age or current size/strength.
    I think it's ashame that the vote so often falls into the hands of nieve, and for lack of a better term, jealous sportswriters.


    McGwire should be in the hall of fame.
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    Re: Ripken and Gwynn to the Baseball HoF on First Ballott

    Voters Deny Cal Ripken Entrance Into Hall Of Fame: 'He Just Wasn't Very Good'
    January 11, 2007 | | Onion Sports

    COOPERSTOWN, NY—Baltimore Orioles shortstop Cal Ripken Jr. failed to receive the 75 percent of the vote needed to gain admittance into the Baseball Hall of Fame Tuesday because, according to the majority of voters, Ripken "simply wasn't very good." "He was just sort of there, you know?" said ESPN's Peter Gammons, who described the 21-year veteran's career as "okay." "Sure, he made a few All-Star teams, but seriously, I would hope that any professional baseball player who played as long as Ripken would reach 3,000 hits, or at least win an MVP or two." According to Gammons, Ripken's failure to be admitted into the Hall of Fame may also have to do with the fact that his intense work ethic, his willingness to stay with one team for the entirety of his career, and the fact that he never took anabolic steroids clearly indicates that, over the years, the game of baseball has passed him by.

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