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    Poll/Did we really go to the Moon?

    There has been so much speculation about this topic, even TV shows and Movies have had their say.
    Let's answer the question once and for all here at PPO.

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    Re: Poll/Did we really go to the Moon?

    I didn't go to the moon, but a bunch of folks from Green Bay did.


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    Re: Poll/Did we really go to the Moon?

    "josdin00" wrote:
    I didn't go to the moon, but a bunch of folks from Green Bay did.

    knuck, knuck, knuck,
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    Re: Poll/Did we really go to the Moon?

    I honestly don't think we did.. From watching that TV show they provided enough information for me to think this.. The main thing was the gravity.. There was a flag blowing around in the backround.. I guess it CANT happen on the moon

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    I honestly don't think we did.. From watching that TV show they provided enough information for me to think this.. The main thing was the gravity.. There was a flag blowing around in the backround.. I guess it CANT happen on the moon
    How about the radiation belt?
    Fly through it in a tin can?
    humm?

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    "Vikez4Lyfe" wrote:
    I honestly don't think we did.. From watching that TV show they provided enough information for me to think this.. The main thing was the gravity.. There was a flag blowing around in the backround.. I guess it CANT happen on the moon
    Dude I never thought about that I guess you are right. Wow I would never of thought that



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    Re: Poll/Did we really go to the Moon?

    the only explanation i can think of about the flag waving: is if they start the flag in motion, then it will tend to stay in motion in low or no gravity.

    i haven't seen the tv show though... it could have been a big hoax because ussr beat us to space.

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    Re: Poll/Did we really go to the Moon?

    if we did go to the moon.. the footage we see isnt real.

    as someone mentioned, the flag was blowing.

    the shadows do not line up. the sun is behind the astronaut but somehow.. you see his front body lit up. nasa said they did not use any lights on the moon. only the sun.

    you'll see several shadows going several different directions. again, nasa said they did not use lights.

    on the first appollo mission, when the rocket takes off.. there is no flame. nasa said it would be impossible for a flame to appear. but somehow a flame appears in a later appollo mission.

    there is also some video of an astronaut that fell. and when he fell, he somehow was lifted up very quickly without using his arms to help himself. he just fell, and was lifted up all of a sudden. almost like there were ropes attached to him. these ropes may have been used to help the astronaut walk and try to help him appear to be "weightless"

    the appollo missions were filmed like a movie.. only they were very poor.

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    Re: Poll/Did we really go to the Moon?

    Still Not Convinced?...
    Here's 32 things that need to be answered!

    1) Sceptics say there are no stars in the black sky, despite zero atmosphere to obscure the view. The first man in Space, Yuri Gagarin, pronounced the stars to be "astonishingly brilliant". See the official NASA pictures above that I have reproduced that show 'stars' in the sky, as viewed from the lunar surface.


    2) The pure oxygen atmosphere in the module would have melted the Hasselblad's camera covering and produced poisonous gases. Why weren't the astronauts affected?

    3) There should have been a substantial crater blasted out under the LEM's 10,000 pound thrust rocket. Sceptics would have you believe that the engines only had the power to blow the dust from underneath the LEM as it landed. If this is true, how did Armstrong create that famous boot print if all the dust had been blown away?

    4) When the LEMs were supposedly leaving the Moon, they should have produced a large bright exhaust flame from the rocket propellant. Instead, zero exhaust. (I have turned this one around and have found evidence of a flame on one ascent of the LEM... just to prove the sceptics wrong!)

    5) Footprints are the result of weight displacing air or moisture from between particles of dirt, dust, or sand. The astronauts left distinct footprints all over the place.

    6) The Apollo 11 TV pictures were lousy, yet the broadcast quality magically became fine on the five subsequent missions.

    7) In most Apollo photos, there is a clear line of definition between the rough foreground and the smooth background.

    8) Why did so many NASA Moonscape photos have non parallel shadows? sceptics will tell you because there is two sources of light on the Moon - the Sun and the Earth... That maybe the case, but the shadows would still fall in the same direction, not two or three different angles.

    9) Why did one of the stage prop rocks have a capital "C" on it and a 'C' on the ground in front of it?

    10) How did the fibreglass whip antenna on the Gemini 6A capsule survive the tremendous heat of atmospheric re-entry?

    11) In Ron Howard's 1995 science fiction movie, Apollo 13, the astronauts lose electrical power and begin worrying about freezing to death. In reality, of course, the relentless bombardment of the Sun's rays would
    rapidly have overheated the vehicle to lethal temperatures with no atmosphere into which to dump the heat build up.


    12) Who would dare risk using the LEM on the Moon when it was never, ever tested successfully? Would you send a relative to the Moon in a vehicle that had never been driven before?

    13) Instead of being able to jump at least ten feet high in "one sixth" gravity, the highest jump was about nineteen inches.

    14) Even though slow motion photography was able to give a fairly convincing appearance of very low
    gravity, it could not disguise the fact that the astronauts traveled no further between steps than they would have on Earth.


    15) If the Rover buggy had actually been moving in one-sixth gravity, then it would have required a twenty foot width in order not to have flipped over on nearly every turn. The Rover had the same width as ordinary small cars.

    16) An astrophysicist who has worked for NASA writes that it takes two meters of shielding to protect against medium solar flares and that heavy ones give out tens of thousands of rem in a few hours. Why didn't
    the astronauts on Apollo 14 and 16 die after exposure to this immense amount of radiation?


    17) The fabric space suits had a crotch to shoulder zipper. There should have been fast leakage of
    air since even a pinhole deflates a tire in short order.


    18) The astronauts in these "pressurized" suits were easily able to bend their fingers, wrists, elbows, and knees at 5.2 p.s.i. and yet a boxer's 4 p.s.i. speed bag is virtually unbendable. The guys would have looked
    like balloon men if the suits had actually been pressurized.

    19) How did the astronauts leave the LEM? in the documentary 'PaperMoon' The host measures a replica of the LEM at The Space Centre in Houston, what he finds is that the 'official' measurements released by NASA are bogus and that the astronauts could not have got out of the LEM...

    20) The water sourced air conditioner backpacks should have produced frequent explosive vapor discharges. They never did.

    21) During the Apollo 14 flag setup ceremony, the flag would not stop fluttering.

    22) With a more than two second signal transmission round trip, how did a camera pan upward to track the departure of the Apollo 16 LEM?

    23) Why did NASA's administrator resigned just days before the first Apollo mission?

    24) Another overlooked intriguing fact is that NASA launched the TETR-A satellite just months before the first lunar mission. The proclaimed purpose was to simulate transmissions coming from the moon so that the Houston ground crews (all those employees sitting behind computer screens at Mission Control) could "rehearse" the first moon landing. In other words, though NASA claimed that the satellite crashed shortly before the first lunar mission (a misinformation lie), its real purpose was to relay voice, fuel consumption, altitude, and telemetry data as if the transmissions were coming from an Apollo spacecraft as it neared the moon. Very few NASA employees knew the truth because they believed that the computer and television data they were receiving was the genuine article. Merely a hundred or so knew what was really going on; not tens of thousands as it might first appear.

    25) In 1998, the Space Shuttle flew to one of its highest altitudes ever, three hundred and fifty miles, hundreds of miles below merely the beginning of the Van Allen Radiation Belts. Inside of their shielding, superior to that which the Apollo astronauts possessed, the shuttle astronauts reported being able to "see" the radiation with their eyes closed penetrating their shielding as well as the retinas of their closed eyes. For a dental x-ray on Earth which lasts 1/100th of a second we wear a 1/4 inch lead vest. Imagine what it would be like to endure several hours of radiation that you can see with your eyes closed from hundreds of miles away with 1/8 of an inch of aluminium shielding!

    26) The Apollo 1 fire of January 27, 1967, killed what would have been the first crew to walk on the Moon just days after the commander, Gus Grissom, held an unapproved press conference complaining that they were at least ten years, not two, from reaching the Moon. The dead man's own son, who is a seasoned pilot himself, has in his possession forensic evidence personally retrieved from the charred spacecraft (that the government has tried to destroy on two or more occasions).

    27) CNN issued the following report, "The radiation belts surrounding Earth may be more dangerous for astronauts than previously believed (like when they supposedly went through them thirty years ago to reach the Moon.) The phenomenon known as the 'Van Allen Belts' can spawn (newly discovered) 'Killer Electrons' that can dramatically affect the astronauts' health."

    28) In 1969 computer chips had not been invented. The maximum computer memory was 256k, and this was housed in a large air conditioned building. In 2002 a top of the range computer requires at least 64 Mb of memory to run a simulated Moon landing, and that does not include the memory required to take off again once landed. The alleged computer on board Apollo 11 had 32k of memory. That's the equivalent of a simple calculator.

    29) If debris from the Apollo missions was left on the Moon, then it would be visible today through a powerful telescope, however no such debris can be seen. The Clementine probe that recently maps the Moons surface failed to show any Apollo artefacts left by Man during the missions. Where did the Moon Buggy and base of the LEM go?

    30) In the year 2002 NASA does not have the technology to land any man, or woman on the Moon, and return them safely to Earth.

    31) Film evidence has recently been uncovered of a mislabeled, unedited, behind-the-scenes video film, dated by NASA three days after they left for the moon. It shows the crew of Apollo 11 staging part of their photography. The film evidence is shown in the video "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon!".

    32) Why did ALL of the blueprints and plans for the Lunar Module and Moon Buggy get destroyed if this was one of History's greatest accomplishments?
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    Re: Poll/Did we really go to the Moon?

    "happy camper" wrote:
    Still Not Convinced?...
    Here's 32 things that need to be answered!

    1) Sceptics say there are no stars in the black sky, despite zero atmosphere to obscure the view. The first man in Space, Yuri Gagarin, pronounced the stars to be "astonishingly brilliant". See the official NASA pictures above that I have reproduced that show 'stars' in the sky, as viewed from the lunar surface.

    2) The pure oxygen atmosphere in the module would have melted the Hasselblad's camera covering and produced poisonous gases. Why weren't the astronauts affected?

    3) There should have been a substantial crater blasted out under the LEM's 10,000 pound thrust rocket. Sceptics would have you believe that the engines only had the power to blow the dust from underneath the LEM as it landed. If this is true, how did Armstrong create that famous boot print if all the dust had been blown away?

    4) When the LEMs were supposedly leaving the Moon, they should have produced a large bright exhaust flame from the rocket propellant. Instead, zero exhaust. (I have turned this one around and have found evidence of a flame on one ascent of the LEM... just to prove the sceptics wrong!)

    5) Footprints are the result of weight displacing air or moisture from between particles of dirt, dust, or sand. The astronauts left distinct footprints all over the place.

    6) The Apollo 11 TV pictures were lousy, yet the broadcast quality magically became fine on the five subsequent missions.

    7) In most Apollo photos, there is a clear line of definition between the rough foreground and the smooth background.

    8) Why did so many NASA Moonscape photos have non parallel shadows? sceptics will tell you because there is two sources of light on the Moon - the Sun and the Earth... That maybe the case, but the shadows would still fall in the same direction, not two or three different angles.

    9) Why did one of the stage prop rocks have a capital "C" on it and a 'C' on the ground in front of it?

    10) How did the fibreglass whip antenna on the Gemini 6A capsule survive the tremendous heat of atmospheric re-entry?

    11) In Ron Howard's 1995 science fiction movie, Apollo 13, the astronauts lose electrical power and begin worrying about freezing to death. In reality, of course, the relentless bombardment of the Sun's rays would
    rapidly have overheated the vehicle to lethal temperatures with no atmosphere into which to dump the heat build up.

    12) Who would dare risk using the LEM on the Moon when it was never, ever tested successfully? Would you send a relative to the Moon in a vehicle that had never been driven before?

    13) Instead of being able to jump at least ten feet high in "one sixth" gravity, the highest jump was about nineteen inches.

    14) Even though slow motion photography was able to give a fairly convincing appearance of very low
    gravity, it could not disguise the fact that the astronauts traveled no further between steps than they would have on Earth.

    15) If the Rover buggy had actually been moving in one-sixth gravity, then it would have required a twenty foot width in order not to have flipped over on nearly every turn. The Rover had the same width as ordinary small cars.

    16) An astrophysicist who has worked for NASA writes that it takes two meters of shielding to protect against medium solar flares and that heavy ones give out tens of thousands of rem in a few hours. Why didn't
    the astronauts on Apollo 14 and 16 die after exposure to this immense amount of radiation?

    17) The fabric space suits had a crotch to shoulder zipper. There should have been fast leakage of
    air since even a pinhole deflates a tire in short order.

    18) The astronauts in these "pressurized" suits were easily able to bend their fingers, wrists, elbows, and knees at 5.2 p.s.i. and yet a boxer's 4 p.s.i. speed bag is virtually unbendable. The guys would have looked
    like balloon men if the suits had actually been pressurized.

    19) How did the astronauts leave the LEM? in the documentary 'PaperMoon' The host measures a replica of the LEM at The Space Centre in Houston, what he finds is that the 'official' measurements released by NASA are bogus and that the astronauts could not have got out of the LEM...

    20) The water sourced air conditioner backpacks should have produced frequent explosive vapor discharges. They never did.

    21) During the Apollo 14 flag setup ceremony, the flag would not stop fluttering.

    22) With a more than two second signal transmission round trip, how did a camera pan upward to track the departure of the Apollo 16 LEM?

    23) Why did NASA's administrator resigned just days before the first Apollo mission?

    24) Another overlooked intriguing fact is that NASA launched the TETR-A satellite just months before the first lunar mission. The proclaimed purpose was to simulate transmissions coming from the moon so that the Houston ground crews (all those employees sitting behind computer screens at Mission Control) could "rehearse" the first moon landing. In other words, though NASA claimed that the satellite crashed shortly before the first lunar mission (a misinformation lie), its real purpose was to relay voice, fuel consumption, altitude, and telemetry data as if the transmissions were coming from an Apollo spacecraft as it neared the moon. Very few NASA employees knew the truth because they believed that the computer and television data they were receiving was the genuine article. Merely a hundred or so knew what was really going on; not tens of thousands as it might first appear.

    25) In 1998, the Space Shuttle flew to one of its highest altitudes ever, three hundred and fifty miles, hundreds of miles below merely the beginning of the Van Allen Radiation Belts. Inside of their shielding, superior to that which the Apollo astronauts possessed, the shuttle astronauts reported being able to "see" the radiation with their eyes closed penetrating their shielding as well as the retinas of their closed eyes. For a dental x-ray on Earth which lasts 1/100th of a second we wear a 1/4 inch lead vest. Imagine what it would be like to endure several hours of radiation that you can see with your eyes closed from hundreds of miles away with 1/8 of an inch of aluminium shielding!

    26) The Apollo 1 fire of January 27, 1967, killed what would have been the first crew to walk on the Moon just days after the commander, Gus Grissom, held an unapproved press conference complaining that they were at least ten years, not two, from reaching the Moon. The dead man's own son, who is a seasoned pilot himself, has in his possession forensic evidence personally retrieved from the charred spacecraft (that the government has tried to destroy on two or more occasions).

    27) CNN issued the following report, "The radiation belts surrounding Earth may be more dangerous for astronauts than previously believed (like when they supposedly went through them thirty years ago to reach the Moon.) The phenomenon known as the 'Van Allen Belts' can spawn (newly discovered) 'Killer Electrons' that can dramatically affect the astronauts' health."

    28) In 1969 computer chips had not been invented. The maximum computer memory was 256k, and this was housed in a large air conditioned building. In 2002 a top of the range computer requires at least 64 Mb of memory to run a simulated Moon landing, and that does not include the memory required to take off again once landed. The alleged computer on board Apollo 11 had 32k of memory. That's the equivalent of a simple calculator.

    29) If debris from the Apollo missions was left on the Moon, then it would be visible today through a powerful telescope, however no such debris can be seen. The Clementine probe that recently maps the Moons surface failed to show any Apollo artefacts left by Man during the missions. Where did the Moon Buggy and base of the LEM go?

    30) In the year 2002 NASA does not have the technology to land any man, or woman on the Moon, and return them safely to Earth.

    31) Film evidence has recently been uncovered of a mislabeled, unedited, behind-the-scenes video film, dated by NASA three days after they left for the moon. It shows the crew of Apollo 11 staging part of their photography. The film evidence is shown in the video "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon!".

    32) Why did ALL of the blueprints and plans for the Lunar Module and Moon Buggy get destroyed if this was one of History's greatest accomplishments?
    oh crap, i guess we didn't go to the moon after all.

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