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    Re: 'NBA player jumps into stands, but this time it's different'

    Del - Even if that were true she was the aggressor you can't blame him. He doesn't know what is going on, he sees his wife and some guy getting inot it. I would have been up there too.

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    Re: 'NBA player jumps into stands, but this time it's differ

    Tark:

    I've been saying the same thing. "That being said if he truley felt his wife was in danger then he had no choice."

    I understand why he did it. I also understand why he was suspended and I agree with it.

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    yep, me too!

    There s only two things stopping you - fear and common sense!! The Truth you CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!

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    "tarkenton10" wrote:
    Snow in april - He saw someone put their hands on his wife. You don't know when security is going to arrive. That guy is lucky becasue more would have happened to him if I were Davis!!!!!!!!!! There is no way I would watch while some drunk A$$ is putting his hands on my wife. HIS KIDS WERE THERE TOO I THINK!!! He should be commended for being as calm as he was. I would have been fired up and who knows what I would have done. You can say what you want to a player but abusing his family is not part of the deal. The guy bought a ticket not the right to act like a complete scumbag. That guy should have been arrested and jailed. You want this behavior to stop then you have to hold THE FANS ACCOUNTABLE. You can't act like that in any public area but a stadium or arena. People need to start going to jail for a few days or weeks. That might nip this thing in the bud, Because I see fans getting more and more obnoxious and really nothing is being done about it.
    Tark, I agree toatlly with Del's post today.

    The reason he went into the stands after hearing the witnesses talk and hearing what happened when she was verbally abusing players on the floor, Davis was going up there to save his wife, cause he knew she started crap again. I don't have a problem with that as long as Davis doesn't have a problem with the fine and suspension.

    This is a precedent for all involved.

    When his wife can't buy a new house, new car or a 1000 karrat diamond, she might feel the affect. From the witnesses that they had on ESPN last night, she was the aggressor. The guy that was supposedly putting his hands on her and was supposedly drunk was neither. The guy pushed her hands out of his face. For those of you from Europe or other foreign contries, in the US we have a boundary that is 18 inches (46cm) or so, if you invade that, it is uncomfortable as heck (unless it is someone significant) whether it is aggression or just someone too close while having a conversation. The wife has shown an attitude that is ugly and aggressive

    Fans have to know they can't bait players into coming off the floor(because the players know they can't come off the floor), or some crazy nut will actually try something to harm the player someday. Not that this is what the guy did at all.

    His kid(Davis) will know that rules are rules and they don't get bent even for the guy that is ahead of the players association and hung out with the NBA League officials all summer. Oh and he knows his mom is a crazy woman.

    It doesn't matter if it was Tim, KG, or Kobe, you are still going to get fined for leaving the court to enter the stands. Stern made it clear last year that there is no interpretation of this rule. It was clear cut. Even though, this time he has a pretty good sector of America that agrees with him on the fact that they too would protect there loved ones, Stern isn't going to let him slide and let some other NBA player try coming up with the same excuse when they go into the stands.

    With all that being said, it is intimidating having a large guy come and stare you down like that, especially when you didn't do anything except try to have the crazy lady sit down and get her fingers out of your face. She was in the wrong or she would have and could have been the one to ask the gaurds to come over. It was the man fan that was the one that motioned security over to the scene.

    The problem here seems to be is if he deserved to be suspended and fined. What someone wants and what they get are sometimes 2 different things. I even stated that I don't want him to get fined much or suspended much. His demeanor goes along way with me, but the fact is he did something that he wasn't suppose to do and he was fined and suspended for it. I think 1 or 2 games would have been enough, but I told you they don't call him Stern for nothing!

    I love Stern (not literally) he is the only commish that I feel has his eye dead set on the players best interest from a business and community stand point. Tags is not far behind.

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    That fan still doesn't deserve any money...what a wuss!
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    "cajunvike" wrote:
    That fan still doesn't deserve any money...what a wuss!
    Well, we will see if his comment about a public apology is true.

    I hope that is all he wants. He doesn't deserve or need the money for what happened. He seemed to be dishing a few back in expletives from the witness accounts.

    But he doesn't need to be painted with a Drunk Fan image. Heck the guy drinks Wine or was it Whine with his supper.

    There wat too many other more pertinent cases out there to bother with this one in the courts, like another MickyD's case or something like that.

    Hey Cajun, have you heard of the case where the Wife killed her Husband with an alcohol enema. Now that is an interesting case.

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    Fan Wants Apology From Knicks Player Who Entered Stands

    Jan 20, 12:41 PM (ET)

    By DAVID BRUMMER

    CHICAGO (AP) - The fan accused of harassing the wife of New York Knicks forward Antonio Davis will drop threats of a lawsuit if the couple apologizes, the man's attorney said Friday.

    Attorney Jay Paul Deratany planned to send a letter to the couple on Friday, asking Davis to make a donation to a charity that tries to prevent violence against women and children. Deratany e-mailed a copy of the letter to The Associated Press.

    Davis was suspended five games by the NBA on Thursday, a day after he went into the stands during a game at the United Center in Chicago to confront 22-year-old Michael Axelrod.

    Davis' statement after the game said the man he thought was threatening his wife, Kendra, was drunk. Axelrod said all he had was a glass of wine at dinner, and that he did nothing wrong.

    Axelrod is asking Davis to take back his comments. He said several witnesses and videotapes of the event back up his client's claims.

    Deratany said he would give the Davises about a week to respond.

    "Both of us respect the game and the point was to send a message not to harass fans - either physically or by later comments that disparage their character," Deratany said Friday. "If that's accomplished, then it's time to move on. It's never been about money."

    On Thursday, Deratany said he planned to sue Davis and his wife for more than $1 million, alleging battery by Kendra Davis and slander by her husband.

    On Friday, Deratany said the $1 million figure was inflated, but declined to say how much his client would seek.

    Axelrod's father, David, is a prominent Democratic political consultant in Chicago who has worked with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley.
    The guy(axelrod) in the photo was almost bald, 22 yrs old?????


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    I don't agree with Del



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    Fan Wants Apology From Davis; Knicks Player, Wife Say No

    Jan 20, 8:42 PM (ET)

    By DAVID BRUMMER

    CHICAGO (AP) - The fan accused of harassing the wife of New York Knicks forward Antonio Davis will drop threats of a lawsuit if the couple says it's sorry, the man's attorney said Friday.

    No way, the Davises said.

    "I'm not apologizing to anybody for anything," Antonio Davis said on a conference call. "I don't think that my wife did anything wrong, I don't think that I did anything wrong."

    Kendra Davis said in an interview with WSCR-AM in Chicago on Friday, "I was just trying to tell the guy to chill out."

    Antonio Davis was suspended five games by the NBA on Thursday, a day after he went into the stands during a game at the United Center in Chicago to confront 22-year-old Michael Axelrod.

    Attorney Jay Paul Deratany planned to send a letter to the couple on Friday, also asking the Davises to make a donation to a charity that tries to prevent violence against women and children. Deratany e-mailed a copy of the letter to The Associated Press.

    "Why would I donate some money in his behalf?" said Davis, already active with various community charities.

    Kendra Davis said, "I'll apologize to Michael Axelrod when he apologizes to my son and to me. We can apologize to each other, but there's no way on earth I would apologize."

    Deratany said he was disappointed with the Davises' comments and that Axelrod was still considering legal action.

    "In terms of Mr. Davis' statement, that's just unfortunate because we gave him the perfect opportunity to act like a gentleman and he didn't take the opportunity," Deratany said. "As far as Mrs. Davis, she made outrageous comments, further slandering Mike."

    Antonio Davis' statement after the game said the man he thought was threatening his wife was drunk and had touched her. Axelrod said all he had was a glass of wine at dinner, and that he did nothing wrong.

    Axelrod is asking Davis - president of the NBA players' association - to take back his comments. Deratany said several witnesses and videotapes of the event back up his client's claims.

    Deratany had said he would give the Davises about a week to respond.

    "Both of us respect the game and the point was to send a message not to harass fans - either physically or by later comments that disparage their character," Deratany said. "If that's accomplished, then it's time to move on. It's never been about money."

    On Thursday, Deratany said he planned to sue Davis and his wife for more than $1 million, alleging battery by Kendra Davis and slander by her husband.

    On Friday, Deratany said the $1 million figure was inflated, but declined to say how much his client would seek.

    Antonio Davis questioned the need for the lawsuit, pointing out that he never mentioned any fan by name. He said the incident started because the fan sitting behind his wife was using offensive language around their son, and she asked him to stop.

    "If he brings a lawsuit against me I have to defend myself, but I just don't understand what he's going to say," Davis said. "I never mentioned his name. I just said one of the gentlemen. So I just don't understand what the lawsuit is all about."

    Davis said he briefly considered legal action against a second fan who was grabbing his wife, but decided against it.

    "I felt like, bottom line is I really just want all of this to go away," he said. "It was an unfortunate situation, I got penalized for it."

    Axelrod's father, David, is a prominent Democratic political consultant in Chicago who has worked with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley.

    Michael Axelrod said Kendra Davis placed her hands on his face, and he motioned for security. But Kendra Davis said Axelrod wasn't threatened.

    "I never said that Michael Axelrod touched me, so why he came up with this whole story about me scratching him ..." she said in the radio interview.

    Asked if she felt threatened, she responded, "The second guy, absolutely I did."

    "When I was talking to Axelrod, he called me a condescending name, followed by an explicit word," Kendra Davis said. "I said, 'How dare you talk to me like that."'

    Kendra Davis said she "probably should have" called for security, but, "I think I taught my kids that you stand up for yourself."

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    Snow,


    This comes down to Two Stories........

    Either the wife was a bitch.......or the fan was a drunk ass....


    If the fan was at wrong, I don't blame the player for a second, suprised he didn't kick the shit out of that guy..

    If the wife is at wrong, pay up and shut up..

    I just don't know the truth yet....


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