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    Re: Morneau MVP!!!

    "Mr" wrote:
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    .313 avg, .425 OBP, 58 HR, 149 RBIS, 108 BB, 182 Hits, and 104 runs on a mediocre team at best
    is clearly better than
    A mediocre team that was in the playoff race deep in the season.
    He was a major part of that.

    I still think Pujols should have won but it's not as big of a robbery as people are making it out to be.
    Howard had an unreal year.
    I'm not going to call the Phillies a good team, the entire National league is bad(besides the Mets and Cards). Just because they were in the playoff race doesn't make them any better. There are teams that finished third in AL divisions that would have made the playoffs in the NL.
    We're basically arguing the same thing.
    I agree that it was a mediocre team.
    I was arguing your point further that Howard was MVP worthy.
    The team was mediocre but were in it until late in the season.
    He is why.

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    Re: Morneau MVP!!!

    This is very exciting news for Twins fans.
    Congrats Justin, you deserve it!

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    Re: Morneau MVP!!!

    the MVP award is not the best stats award..both winners deserved it..im from st louis and i think howard kept his team in the hunt after the abreu trade and have no problem with him winning..as for jeter, hes on a team where anybody could be an mvp candidate..he had the best numbers on a superstar team, but that doesnt at all make you the MVP because you can take him outta that lineup and replace him with jason bartlett, and theyre still a playoff team regardless of what you try and say..are the twins a playoff team without morneau? absolutely not, they wouldnt even contend for 3rd in the division
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    Re: Morneau MVP!!!

    While I think Morneau is a worthy CANDIDATE ... I definitely do not think he deserved it over Jeter or Papi ... or even Mauer ... but you know what ... f**** the Red Sox and screw the Yanks too! Great Job Justin!

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    Re: Morneau MVP!!!

    http://www.nysun.com/article/43962

    The New Yorkers Just can't live with this...Apparently neither can ESPN who had Jeter as their "darling." Here's part of a story from the NY press:

    [size=14pt]Another MVP Foolishly Given To the Guy With All the RBI[/size]

    The selection, announced yesterday, of Minnesota first baseman Justin Morneau as the American League's Most Valuable Player is dumb and indefensible, good evidence of why no one takes baseball writers seriously. Morneau wasn't the best, or the second-best, or the third-best player among first basemen and designated hitters. He wasn't the best or second-best player on his own team. He wasn't even the best player with the initials "JM" on his own team. (You take the guy with 130 RBI and I'll take Joe Mauer, a Gold Glove-caliber catcher who led the league in batting average, and we'll see who wins more games.) He wasn't one of the five best players in the division. He wasn't one of the 10 best players in the league.
    And there are at least two peices on ESPN why Jeter should have been the winner. We're gonna have to start calling them the "New York Whiners."

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    Re: Morneau MVP!!!

    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    http://www.nysun.com/article/43962

    The New Yorkers Just can't live with this...Apparently neither can ESPN who had Jeter as their "darling." Here's part of a story from the NY press:

    [size=14pt]Another MVP Foolishly Given To the Guy With All the RBI[/size]

    The selection, announced yesterday, of Minnesota first baseman Justin Morneau as the American League's Most Valuable Player is dumb and indefensible, good evidence of why no one takes baseball writers seriously. Morneau wasn't the best, or the second-best, or the third-best player among first basemen and designated hitters. He wasn't the best or second-best player on his own team. He wasn't even the best player with the initials "JM" on his own team. (You take the guy with 130 RBI and I'll take Joe Mauer, a Gold Glove-caliber catcher who led the league in batting average, and we'll see who wins more games.) He wasn't one of the five best players in the division. He wasn't one of the 10 best players in the league.
    And there are at least two peices on ESPN why Jeter should have been the winner. We're gonna have to start calling them the "New York Whiners."

    He makes a good point, no need to take this guy seriously.
    Jeter was the best and everyone knew it??? This guy didn't even bring up the stat comparisons between the two to even justify saying Jeter was the better and more deserving of the award!
    F him...and F the Yankers.
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    Re: Morneau MVP!!!

    Morneau was responsible for more runs- scored and batted in.
    The New York media can blow it out their assses.
    I love how they talk about the Twins like they saw them play more than a couple times.
    Mauer has more tools and is more talented than Morneau but Morneau was definitely our MVP.
    When it counted, Morneau hit better than anyone in baseball-average and rbi. Put Morneau in the spot in the Yankee order where Jeter batted as well as in the weaker division with no pitching and it's safe conjecture that he'd hit 140 rbi, scored 120, and 340 avg.
    Who hit behind Morneau when Torii was out?
    Who hit behind Jeter all season?
    Who played in the weakest division in the AL and who played in the division in all of baseball?
    Which team had the best record in baseball starting at the exact same time their MVP candidate started hitting better than anyone in baseball?

    Stats:
    Morneau>Jeter
    Influence on outcome of season for team:
    Morneau>Jeter
    Team won better divsion:
    Morneau>Jeter
    Protection in the order:
    Jeter>Morneau
    = advantage Morneau

    The more you look at it, it's not even close.
    Put the
    exact same season Jeter had on the A's and he's not even in the conversation.
    The NY media can suck it.
    And they're wrong.

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