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    Re: Man sprays 'toilet-papering' teens with fox urine

    I mean, what's the big deal? Who hasn't been sprayed with Fox Piss?
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    I mean, what's the big deal? Who hasn't been sprayed with Fox Piss?
    Kids just whine too much these days.

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    Re: Man sprays 'toilet-papering' teens with fox urine

    "pack93z" wrote:
    I wonder if the charges are tied more to the "grabbing" of one of the teens than spraying them?

    One another site, it say an altercation.. wonder what that entails?

    Wouldn't be that the press is highlighting the "Fox urine" to grab attention and bypass the root of the charges?
    You are probably right in that regard.
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    Re: Man sprays 'toilet-papering' teens with fox urine

    Kids got what they deserved.

    I for one, would have followed them home and talked to thier Dad about it.
    If that didn't help, then I guess the ole Fox Piss on the doorstep would have had to happen.
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    Re: Man sprays 'toilet-papering' teens with fox urine

    "C" wrote:
    I mean, what's the big deal? Who hasn't been sprayed with Fox Piss?
    Yeah...my drinks last night must've been made with it.

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    Re: Man sprays 'toilet-papering' teens with fox urine

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    While I will certainly concede that there is some poetic justice here, if this guy was really that peeved about the TP, he should have called the police. In a small town like Willmar, do you really think he didn't know (or that the local police wouldn't have known) who the kids were?

    There's a reason we taxpayers employ police officers, and it isn't so that they can sit around nomming on maple bars while we have to shoot teenagers with fox piss (which could contain God-knows-what diseases) to keep them off of our lawns.

    And seriously, where did this guy get the fox piss? Does he have pet foxes trained to pee in buckets? Wtf?
    +1, what a dumbass! Glad he is getting charged but the kids should get charged with trespassing as well.

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    Re: Man sprays 'toilet-papering' teens with fox urine

    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    First of all, anyone can buy fox urine at any hunting supply store. It's used for a variety of reasons in the outdoor world. For trapping, for putting on your hunting boots to kill scent when trapping or hunting and other reasons. You can buy it in small bottles all the way up to gallon size.
    It's genuine fox urine with no additives or other chemicals in it. It has to be pure in order for it to be used the way hunters use it.
    Secondly, things like this just pee (no pun intended) me off. A person has every right to defend their property. As far as calling the police, I'm sure he has, but the police can't and won't be there exactly when the TP draping happens. The guy did not do anything harmful to the kids and I think he was well within his rights.
    So how long do you think the cops would take to get there when he saw them in the process of TPing and called them. Bullshit.

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    Re: Man sprays 'toilet-papering' teens with fox urine

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    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    First of all, anyone can buy fox urine at any hunting supply store. It's used for a variety of reasons in the outdoor world. For trapping, for putting on your hunting boots to kill scent when trapping or hunting and other reasons. You can buy it in small bottles all the way up to gallon size.
    It's genuine fox urine with no additives or other chemicals in it. It has to be pure in order for it to be used the way hunters use it.
    Secondly, things like this just pee (no pun intended) me off. A person has every right to defend their property. As far as calling the police, I'm sure he has, but the police can't and won't be there exactly when the TP draping happens. The guy did not do anything harmful to the kids and I think he was well within his rights.
    Didn't know you could buy it. Guess I've never considered fox hunting. Interesting.

    And while I don't purport to know much about the Minnesota Constitution or the State's various property statutes, I sure have a hard time believing that the right to defend property would include it being lawful to use fox piss. See, the thing about protecting property is that an owners actions need to be proportional to that of the person causing harm to the property.
    Thus, you could probably get away with shooting someone who broke into your house in the middle of the night with the intention to attack you, but you can't shoot someone trying to steal your garbage can from your yard. In most cases, you're supposed to call the police, not take matters into your own hands. If you choose to do the latter, you open up yourself to liability for injuries caused to the trespasser.

    Was using fox piss proportional to kids TP-ing a house? Perhaps many of you think so, but I doubt most judges would agree. While you may not think of fox piss as harmful, are you certain? I admit that I don't know much about it, but I do know that wild animals can carry a variety of diseases, and I'm guessing at least some of these can be transported through urine. Not to mention that this is really disgusting. Certainly there were less offensive means for this guy to make his point.

    It may not seem fair, but try to remember that we pay police officers for a reason. That reason is to protect our persons and property. Courts do not want citizens taking the law into their own hands. This is why we have the judicial system--in order to keep our society civilized. If this guy was worried that the cops wouldn't arrive in time, perhaps a better solution would have been to take the teenagers' pictures. Certainly it would have been more constructive in the long run. Think about
    a teenager's logic. Even if this guy wasn't charged with anything for the fox piss spraying, do you really think this would have deterred the teens? I'm going to go out on a limb and say, no way in hell. In fact, I can almost guarantee that the next incident would have involved eggs, spray paint, or worse. And on and on it would escalate. Again, this is why we have police officers and a judicial system, which actually can deter behavior and promote civility.
    Great post. It makes me wonder when people say that we should take the law into our hands over some kids TPing. TPing! Are you serious? IF everyone did this the world would be in chaos. The same people who defend these cops when they fuck up need to let them do their job that we fork over our hard earned money for. This shit pisses me off.

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    Re: Man sprays 'toilet-papering' teens with fox urine

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    Dropper, I have to disagree.
    This man's house has been the subject of vandalism on the same night every year for eight years.
    He says groups of teens have been toilet-papering and egging his house during homecoming for about eight years, and each year it gets more destructive.
    I am willing to bet that the police have been notified before.
    Maybe if they had been able to stop it, it would not have come to this.
    (as a former police office, I can honestly say that I am disappointed in the effort put forth by that police department).
    Unfortunately, in a smaller town the police department does not have the resources to station a cop outside his house all night long.
    Not to mention that would just encourage the kids to just come back a different day.

    And yes, I can be fairly certain that fox urine is not harmful.
    Hunters use it all the time.
    He even diluted it with water.

    Add to that the fact that he told them to leave, and was also physically assaulted by one of the teens, I think it is ridiculous that he is facing any litigation.
    Those kids were trespassing on private property, and were told to leave.

    If one of my kids was involved, you can bet you ass that they would NOT be part of any litigation against that man.
    They are kids. They do stupid shit like this. He is an adult. He put urine in a squirt gun and shot at them. He needs to grow the fuck up. Call the police when they are doing it. Seriously how long could it take for a cop to get there and find the kids? This guy needs to grow the fuck up.

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    Re: Man sprays 'toilet-papering' teens with fox urine

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Kids got what they deserved.

    I for one, would have followed them home and talked to thier Dad about it.
    If that didn't help, then I guess the ole Fox Piss on the doorstep would have had to happen.

    ;D
    That is what an adult would have done. Bravo Marrdo!

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