Page 3 of 16 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 152

Thread: Kingdom Come.

  1. #21
    cajunvike's Avatar
    cajunvike is offline Jersey Retired
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    32,063

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    "T" wrote:
    Well, I'm new to the site but I'm a hip hop fan for life.
    Hip hop pretty much consumes me but my second love is professional sports.
    I love talking hip hop.
    I could do it for hours.
    Where are you from, TDogg?
    I like your avatar...I pretty much listen to Tupac some almost every day...people can dis him all they want...but he just seemed to hit the nail on the head when it came to expressing alot of what was going on in his own part of the world.
    BANNED OR DEAD...I'LL TAKE EITHER ONE

  2. #22
    T Dogg's Avatar
    T Dogg is offline Rookie
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    65

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    Where are you from, TDogg?
    I like your avatar...I pretty much listen to Tupac some almost every day...people can dis him all they want...but he just seemed to hit the nail on the head when it came to expressing alot of what was going on in his own part of the world.
    [/quote]

    I'm from Michigan and I agree with you one hundred percent.
    2pac was definitely one of a kind and we'll never see another MC like him.
    I think the main thing about Pac's music that I love so much is the passion that he had for it.
    He actually gave a crap about what he was saying unlike all these stupid rappers that just make club records like 50 Cent and others.
    How can an MC be passionate about going out to the club every night?
    There are a lot of people that hate on Pac but one thing that everyone should be able to admit is that he was original, he was passionate, he made great songs about rare topics in hip hop, and he was great for hip hop music.

  3. #23
    cajunvike's Avatar
    cajunvike is offline Jersey Retired
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    32,063

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    "T" wrote:
    [quote]
    "cajunvike]Where" wrote:

    I'm from Michigan and I agree with you one hundred percent.
    2pac was definitely one of a kind and we'll never see another MC like him.
    I think the main thing about Pac's music that I love so much is the passion that he had for it.
    He actually gave a crap about what he was saying unlike all these stupid rappers that just make club records like 50 Cent and others.
    How can an MC be passionate about going out to the club every night?
    There are a lot of people that hate on Pac but one thing that everyone should be able to admit is that he was original, he was passionate, he made great songs about rare topics in hip hop, and he was great for hip hop music.
    True dat!
    I am from Louisiana...and never lived in the life that he raps about...but he helps me to understand his world...and for that I appreciate him!
    Part of understanding the rest of the world is to listen...and his music certainly makes a lot of people do that!
    BANNED OR DEAD...I'LL TAKE EITHER ONE

  4. #24
    cajunvike's Avatar
    cajunvike is offline Jersey Retired
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    32,063

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    By the way, Bdubya (another longtime member here) is also from Michigan...and a huge hip hop fan as well.
    Try to catch up with him.
    Also DCPologirl (who lives near me) is a big time hip hop fan who would probably love to hear what you have to say about the hip hop world.
    BANNED OR DEAD...I'LL TAKE EITHER ONE

  5. #25
    Del Rio Guest

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    And the music i be makin
    I dumb down for my audience
    And double my dollars


    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    It doesn't get much better then that.

    The people that buy my music are dumb but it makes me rich.

  6. #26
    PurplePride80's Avatar
    PurplePride80 is offline Star Spokesman
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Posts
    1,980

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    T Dogg, what's your favorite Tupac album? ( excluding greatest hits)
    In the P.J.'s, my blend tape plays, bullets are strays
    Young bitches is grazed
    Each block, is like a maze, full of black rats trapped
    Plus the Island is packed
    From what I hear in all the stories when my peoples come back, black

  7. #27
    ItalianStallion's Avatar
    ItalianStallion is offline Jersey Retired
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Posts
    6,615

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    "T" wrote:
    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    I'm not a huge fan of Jay-Z.
    I don't like his flow, to me it is too slow and simplistic.
    Personally I think he bites the syle of a lot of the greats.
    To me, those lines you highlighted Williamson just show he is fully aware that he is a sell out.
    Rhyme about something interesting, then I might listen.

    But hey, he sells records and lots of people seem to like him.
    I was just wondering who you think Jay-Z bites his flow from, considering he's been around as long or longer then the rappers who most would say are the "best" besides Rakim.
    I also don't see how he's a sell out.
    Is it because he has prolly the largest fan base of any rapper alive?
    If it's simply about the money I don't see how he sold out considering he built his own label from the ground up and never took offers from other labels even though I'm sure he could've.
    If selling out is obtaining a fan base large enough to be considered main stream then Common and Talib Kweli could only dream of being considered sell outs some day.
    No disrespect intended to either of those rappers.
    Well, seeing as how Jay-Z's debut "Reasonable Doubt" came out in '96, that leaves plenty of great rappers who preceded him that he has bitten in one way or another.
    Here are some I have found:

    --Jay-z on Squeeze First
    "That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"

    Biggie smalls on Hypnotize
    "That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Big L (RIP) on the 7 minute 95' freestyle with Jigga
    "All I got for chicks is hard dic*k and bubble gum"

    jay-z on A Million and One Questions
    "All I got for chicks is hard dic*k and bubble gum"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    jay-z (takeover)
    "Get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"

    Dre on the 2001 LP..
    "You get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jay-Z (give it to me)
    "When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
    Will I fuc*k 'em will I diss 'em, that's what they be yellin
    I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
    Y'all be chasin, I replace them, huh?
    Drunk off Cris"

    Biggie: (the world is filled)
    "When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
    Will I fuc*k em will I diss em, that's what these hoes yellin
    I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
    Y'all still chase on, I'll replace on, punks
    Drunk off Dom"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jay-Z: (- "Squeeze 1st" )
    "thou shalt not fuc*k with raw me, or he
    Face a thousand deaths...

    Biggie: (- "Who Shot Ya" )
    "Thou shalt not fuc*k with raw C-Poppa
    Feel a thosand deaths...
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jay-Z: (- "The Ruler's Back" )
    "Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"

    Biggie: (-"Kick in The Door" )
    "Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jay-Z: (-"Girls...RMX" )
    "isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
    her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"

    Biggie: (- "One More Chance" )
    "isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
    her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    He bites 2pac's '96 Bonnie and Clyde with his much poorer version about Beyonce in '03 Bonnie and Clyde.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Ice T "i got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one"

    Jay-z "I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The list goes on...Big, Nas (Jay dissed Nas on the Blueprint album, and turned around and bit a Nas line on the same album), Snoop, Rakim, Slick Rick, Big Daddy Kane etc.

    Listen to Swagger Jacker a Jay-z diss by Cam'Ron ( http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/play-audio.php?rid=85660&path=camron_Swagger_Jacker )

    To me he comprimised his artistic integrity by concerning himself so much with $ and shallow singles.
    I have no doubt he is a good businessman, he knows what sells.
    He has a large fan base no doubt, now whether those fans care that he's a biter, or even listen to the artists he bites from, is a different story altogether.
    Not saying certain allusion's to other rapper art is not good, but Jay-Z takes it to a new level.
    I also take issue with a lot of his lame cameo's that don't fit in other artist's songs and how he get shown up on tracks he duo's with (ie. Renegade, Eminem rhymes about 100x better).


    I m like a Ja Rule poster, cause I'm off the wall.

  8. #28
    cajunvike's Avatar
    cajunvike is offline Jersey Retired
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    32,063

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    "Del" wrote:
    And the music i be makin
    I dumb down for my audience
    And double my dollars


    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    It doesn't get much better then that.

    The people that buy my music are dumb but it makes me rich.
    The truth hurts!
    BANNED OR DEAD...I'LL TAKE EITHER ONE

  9. #29
    PurplePride80's Avatar
    PurplePride80 is offline Star Spokesman
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Posts
    1,980

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    "T" wrote:
    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    I'm not a huge fan of Jay-Z.
    I don't like his flow, to me it is too slow and simplistic.
    Personally I think he bites the syle of a lot of the greats.
    To me, those lines you highlighted Williamson just show he is fully aware that he is a sell out.
    Rhyme about something interesting, then I might listen.

    But hey, he sells records and lots of people seem to like him.
    I was just wondering who you think Jay-Z bites his flow from, considering he's been around as long or longer then the rappers who most would say are the "best" besides Rakim.
    I also don't see how he's a sell out.
    Is it because he has prolly the largest fan base of any rapper alive?
    If it's simply about the money I don't see how he sold out considering he built his own label from the ground up and never took offers from other labels even though I'm sure he could've.
    If selling out is obtaining a fan base large enough to be considered main stream then Common and Talib Kweli could only dream of being considered sell outs some day.
    No disrespect intended to either of those rappers.
    Well, seeing as how Jay-Z's debut "Reasonable Doubt" came out in '96, that leaves plenty of great rappers who preceded him that he has bitten in one way or another.
    Here are some I have found:

    --Jay-z on Squeeze First
    "That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"

    Biggie smalls on Hypnotize
    "That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Big L (RIP) on the 7 minute 95' freestyle with Jigga
    "All I got for chicks is hard dic*k and bubble gum"

    jay-z on A Million and One Questions
    "All I got for chicks is hard dic*k and bubble gum"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    jay-z (takeover)
    "Get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"

    Dre on the 2001 LP..
    "You get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jay-Z (give it to me)
    "When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
    Will I fuc*k 'em will I diss 'em, that's what they be yellin
    I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
    Y'all be chasin, I replace them, huh?
    Drunk off Cris"

    Biggie: (the world is filled)
    "When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
    Will I fuc*k em will I diss em, that's what these hoes yellin
    I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
    Y'all still chase on, I'll replace on, punks
    Drunk off Dom"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jay-Z: (- "Squeeze 1st" )
    "thou shalt not fuc*k with raw me, or he
    Face a thousand deaths...

    Biggie: (- "Who Shot Ya" )
    "Thou shalt not fuc*k with raw C-Poppa
    Feel a thosand deaths...
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jay-Z: (- "The Ruler's Back" )
    "Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"

    Biggie: (-"Kick in The Door" )
    "Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jay-Z: (-"Girls...RMX" )
    "isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
    her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"

    Biggie: (- "One More Chance" )
    "isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
    her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    He bites 2pac's '96 Bonnie and Clyde with his much poorer version about Beyonce in '03 Bonnie and Clyde.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Ice T "i got 99 problems but a beeyatch ain't one"

    Jay-z "I got 99 problems but a beeyatch ain't one"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The list goes on...Big, Nas (Jay dissed Nas on the Blueprint album, and turned around and bit a Nas line on the same album), Snoop, Rakim, Slick Rick, Big Daddy Kane etc.

    Listen to Swagger Jacker a Jay-z diss by Cam'Ron ( http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/play-audio.php?rid=85660&path=camron_Swagger_Jacker )

    To me he comprimised his artistic integrity by concerning himself so much with $ and shallow singles.
    I have no doubt he is a good businessman, he knows what sells.
    He has a large fan base no doubt, now whether those fans care that he's a biter, or even listen to the artists he bites from, is a different story altogether.
    Not saying certain allusion's to other rapper art is not good, but Jay-Z takes it to a new level.
    I also take issue with a lot of his lame cameo's that don't fit in other artist's songs and how he get shown up on tracks he duo's with (ie. Renegade, Eminem rhymes about 100x better).
    ALL rappers bite others that came before them.

    There's nothing wrong with it, it's just the nature of Hip-Hop.

    Jay-Z has done it a lot more often, and that's why he receives so much critisicm.

    Ghostface and Rakewon accused Biggie of biting Nas' Illmatic album cover. Because of his Ready to Die album cover, which both feature an image of a baby.

    [img width=298 height=300]http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/0/G/-/-/-/Nas-Illmatic.jpg[/img]

    [img width=170 height=170]http://www.lyred.com/covers/notorious_b.i.g._-_ready_to_die.jpg[/img]

    The point I'm trying to make is, EVERYONE bites, not just Jay-Z.






    In the P.J.'s, my blend tape plays, bullets are strays
    Young bitches is grazed
    Each block, is like a maze, full of black rats trapped
    Plus the Island is packed
    From what I hear in all the stories when my peoples come back, black

  10. #30
    JDogg926's Avatar
    JDogg926 is offline Star Spokesman
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Posts
    1,786

    Re: Kingdom Come.

    Jay-Z has got to be the worst, most over-rated rapper (maybe outside Kanye West) out there.
    He has some good beats, but that has nothing to do with your rapping.
    It's funny, because he has basically declared himself great.
    That's kind of like Michael Bennett declaring himself the best RB in the NFL, because he's been doing it for years.
    Jay-Z could learn a lot from Bone, Outkast, 2Pac, Biggie, Ghetto Boyz, DMX, Snoop, etc.
    He's not even in the same class as these others.
    542cbf305f333b0554e8ffa937f852d6

Page 3 of 16 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 05-25-2008, 04:48 PM
  2. Fans of Kingdom hearts/Square Enix
    By SharperImage42 in forum The Clubhouse
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-07-2007, 10:10 PM
  3. Regular Season Game In United Kingdom??
    By ElBarto in forum General NFL Discussion
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 03-19-2005, 01:24 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •