Firefighter suspended for refusing to peel American flag sticker from locker

**tarkenton10** · 10-27-2009, 11:25 AM

"Prophet" wrote:

I got a sticker as a prize when I went to the dentist, I like stickers.

That depends where you put the sticker if it is a prize or not!?!?!

**jmcdon00** · 10-27-2009, 11:41 AM

"tarkenton10" wrote:

"jmcdon00" wrote:

"tarkenton10" wrote:

"jmcdon00" wrote:

"AngloVike" wrote:

[quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=53843.msg1009563#msg1009563 date=1256583484]
Only in America.
It has nothing to do with patriotism or offending anyone. A rule is a rule. The rule is no stickers on lockers.

maybe so but common sense should kick in. Yes the rule may say no stickers but a national flag should be exempt.
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Common sense says follow the rules, no stickers. Doesn't matter if it's the American flag, a cross, a Vikings logo, or pictures of your kids. The rule is the rule, this guy is lucky he has a union to back him(though I have no idea why they are), in most lines of work if you deliberately disobey the boss you get fired.

Apparently you do not understand what exempt means.
That rule sucks if you think an American flag can't be put on your locker.
I m sure you are not so steadfast when it comes to laws which are more stringent than rules.
Let say the marijuana law!!
A law is a law, right!!!

I'm not defending the rule, I'm saying that it is a rule, and if you break a rule there should be consequences. If this firefighter started a petition to allow flags on lockers I would sign it without question, as would I sign a petition to legalize marijuana. Doesn't mean that I think a person caught smoking marijuana on the job shouldn't be fired, or a person putting stickers up shouldn't be disciplined.
If someone wants to walk down the street carrying a flag, good for them. They want to put a flag sticker on everything they own, good for them. They want to put a flag sticker on work property when it is prohibited by the person in charge of said property, thats not so good.

And when a rule is wrong that is when you defy the rule!!
Such was the case with MLK when unjust laws were on the books.
In order to bring light to the unjust rule you MUST break it first, had he gone along with it the rule would never had changed!!
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I'll smoke to that!

**tarkenton10** · 10-27-2009, 11:50 AM

"jmcdon00" wrote:

"tarkenton10" wrote:

"jmcdon00" wrote:

"tarkenton10" wrote:

"jmcdon00" wrote:

[quote author=AngloVike link=topic=53843.msg1009647#msg1009647 date=1256591587]
[quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=53843.msg1009563#msg1009563 date=1256583484]
Only in America.
It has nothing to do with patriotism or offending anyone. A rule is a rule. The rule is no stickers on lockers.

maybe so but common sense should kick in. Yes the rule may say no stickers but a national flag should be exempt.
:

Common sense says follow the rules, no stickers. Doesn't matter if it's the American flag, a cross, a Vikings logo, or pictures of your kids. The rule is the rule, this guy is lucky he has a union to back him(though I have no idea why they are), in most lines of work if you deliberately disobey the boss you get fired.

Apparently you do not understand what exempt means.
That rule sucks if you think an American flag can't be put on your locker.
I m sure you are not so steadfast when it comes to laws which are more stringent than rules.
Let say the marijuana law!!
A law is a law, right!!!

I'm not defending the rule, I'm saying that it is a rule, and if you break a rule there should be consequences. If this firefighter started a petition to allow flags on lockers I would sign it without question, as would I sign a petition to legalize marijuana. Doesn't mean that I think a person caught smoking marijuana on the job shouldn't be fired, or a person putting stickers up shouldn't be disciplined.
If someone wants to walk down the street carrying a flag, good for them. They want to put a flag sticker on everything they own, good for them. They want to put a flag sticker on work property when it is prohibited by the person in charge of said property, thats not so good.

And when a rule is wrong that is when you defy the rule!!
Such was the case with MLK when unjust laws were on the books.
In order to bring light to the unjust rule you MUST break it first, had he gone along with it the rule would never had changed!!
[/quote]
I'll smoke to that!
[/quote]

I'll have a couple of beers with ya!!! ;D

**tarkenton10** · 10-28-2009, 09:37 AM

"jmcdon00" wrote:

"tarkenton10" wrote:

"jmcdon00" wrote:

"tarkenton10" wrote:

"jmcdon00" wrote:

[quote author=AngloVike link=topic=53843.msg1009647#msg1009647 date=1256591587]
[quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=53843.msg1009563#msg1009563 date=1256583484]
Only in America.
It has nothing to do with patriotism or offending anyone. A rule is a rule. The rule is no stickers on lockers.

maybe so but common sense should kick in. Yes the rule may say no stickers but a national flag should be exempt.
:

Common sense says follow the rules, no stickers. Doesn't matter if it's the American flag, a cross, a Vikings logo, or pictures of your kids. The rule is the rule, this guy is lucky he has a union to back him(though I have no idea why they are), in most lines of work if you deliberately disobey the boss you get fired.

Apparently you do not understand what exempt means.
That rule sucks if you think an American flag can't be put on your locker.
I m sure you are not so steadfast when it comes to laws which are more stringent than rules.
Let say the marijuana law!!
A law is a law, right!!!

I'm not defending the rule, I'm saying that it is a rule, and if you break a rule there should be consequences. If this firefighter started a petition to allow flags on lockers I would sign it without question, as would I sign a petition to legalize marijuana. Doesn't mean that I think a person caught smoking marijuana on the job shouldn't be fired, or a person putting stickers up shouldn't be disciplined.
If someone wants to walk down the street carrying a flag, good for them. They want to put a flag sticker on everything they own, good for them. They want to put a flag sticker on work property when it is prohibited by the person in charge of said property, thats not so good.

And when a rule is wrong that is when you defy the rule!!
Such was the case with MLK when unjust laws were on the books.
In order to bring light to the unjust rule you MUST break it first, had he gone along with it the rule would never have changed!!
[/quote]
I'll smoke to that!
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