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10-18-2006, 09:48 PM #1
Cult leader says he's too obese for execution
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- A federal judge on Tuesday delayed next week's execution of cult leader Jeffrey Lundgren to allow him to join a lawsuit by five other death row inmates challenging the state's use of lethal injection.
In his request to join the lawsuit, Lundgren, 56, said he is at even greater risk of experiencing pain and suffering during the procedure than other inmates because he is overweight and diabetic.
Similar lawsuits filed in several states have led to the halting of executions in Missouri, Delaware and New Jersey.
Opponents have argued that the use of the lethal injection is unconstitutionally cruel and painful and that the procedure is often carried out without specifically trained medical personnel present.
But Ohio's method of lethal injection came under national scrutiny by death penalty opponents in May after problems slowed the execution of another inmate who was a former intravenous drug user and the vein the execution team chose collapsed as the chemicals started flowing.
While Judge Gregory Frost issued an order temporarily delaying Lundgren's execution, he said it appears to him that potential flaws with Ohio's execution process could easily be corrected.
"Thus, any delay in carrying out Lundgren's execution should and can be minimal," Frost said.
State Attorney General Jim Petro will appeal the ruling to the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati, said spokesman Mark Anthony.
Lundgren's sentence stems from a conviction for the fatal shooting of a family of five in 1989. The family, which included three children, were killed while they stood in a pit dug inside his barn in northeast Ohio.
Lundgren formed a cult after he was dismissed in 1987 as a lay minister of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, now known as the Community of Christ.
He said passages in the Bible told him to kill the family. Several witnesses said the family was not as enthusiastic about the cult as Lundgren would have liked.
The family he killed had moved from Missouri in 1987 to follow Lundgren's teachings.
Frost's decision allows Lundgren to join a 2004 lawsuit brought by death row inmate Richard Cooey, convicted of the rape and murder of two University of Akron students in 1986.
Cooey argues that the way chemicals used in lethal injection are administered makes the process painful enough to amount to cruel and unusual punishment, in violation of the constitution.
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Four other inmates had previously joined the lawsuit.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/18/bc.na.gen.us.cultleader.ap/index.html
You kill someone you should feel some pain.
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10-18-2006, 10:00 PM #2
Re: Cult leader says he's too obese for execution
if you ask me, id say there ought to be a ton of pain and even more suffering in each and every execution..if it hurts more cuz ur fat, then thats your own damn fault
People who see life as anything more than pure entertainment are missing the point.
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10-18-2006, 10:04 PM #3
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If he did something bad enough to be on death row than it shouldnt matter how much pain he can feel!

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10-18-2006, 10:04 PM #4
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Stand him on his head and let him suffocate in his own fat.
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10-18-2006, 10:19 PM #5
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Kill his fat A$$ already!!!!!
BANNED OR DEAD...I'LL TAKE EITHER ONE
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10-18-2006, 10:22 PM #6
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Since when is death row suppose to fun and painless?

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10-19-2006, 04:06 AM #7
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Re: Cult leader says he's too obese for execution
All kind of death penalty are cruel and uncivilized if you ask me.

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10-19-2006, 05:40 AM #8
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Stick dynamite in all the rolls and light.
Same result.Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain
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10-19-2006, 06:14 AM #9
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when the cost of killing a criminal that deserves the death penelty is more then keeping him alive.. it's time to relook at the way we go about it.
do i have the best answer.. no, is there something we can re-examine and possibly change in the death penelty.. sure.
does it really warrent concern that a violent murdering criminal is going to feel pain on his way under?
for me... NO
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10-19-2006, 06:16 AM #10
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I think execution should be different... Every person should be executed by the same means that they killed their victims.. That way these people will know exactly what their victims had to go through..
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