Thread: Cheap Tomatoes?

I came across this article the other day and found it very interesting...

This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet



Tomatoes and Cheap Labor


CHEAP TOMATOES?
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent

From a California school teacher - - -



"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioleconomic and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud.
The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial..
I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it.
Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?

There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about "politically correctness" that we don't have the will to do anything about it.




CHEAP LABOR?
Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.

Consumers don't want expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. there is no such thing as "cheap labor."

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour.
At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax,
yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax
Return,
he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.

He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare.
All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense.

He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.

The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor?
YEAH RIGHT!

Wake up people. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY.
'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'

Reminds me of the "Savings Plan"





GREAT SAVINGS PLAN
(Actual letter from an Iowa resident and sent to his senator)





The Honorable Tom Harkin



731 Hart Senate Office Building





Phone (202) 224 3254





Washington DC, 20510

Dear Senator Harkin,




As a native Iowan and excellent customer of the Internal Revenue
Service, I am writing to ask for your assistance. I have contacted the
Department of Homeland Security in an effort to determine the process
for becoming an illegal alien and they referred me to you.




My primary reason for wishing to change my status from U.S.
Citizen to illegal alien stems from the bill which was recently passed
by the Senate and for which you voted. If my understanding of this
bill's provisions is accurate, as an illegal alien who has been in the
United States for five years, all I need to do to become a citizen is
to pay a $2,000 fine and income taxes for three of the last five years.
I know a good deal when I see one and I am anxious to get the process
started before everyone figures it out.




Simply put, those of us who have been here legally have had to
pay taxes every year so I'm excited about the prospect of avoiding two
years of taxes in return for paying a $2,000 fine. Is there any way
that I can apply to be illegal retroactively? This would yield an
excellent result for me and my family because we paid heavy
taxes in 2004 and 2005.




Additionally, as an illegal alien I could begin using the local
emergency room as my primary health care provider. Once I have stopped
paying premiums for medical insurance, my accountant figures I could
save almost $10,000 a year.




Another benefit in gaining illegal status would be that my
daughter would receive preferential treatment relative to her law
school applications, as well as "in-state" tuition rates for many
colleges throughout the United States for my son.




Lastly, I understand that illegal status would relieve me of the
burden of renewing my driver's license and making those burdensome car
insurance premiums. This is very important to me given that I still
have college age children driving my car.




If you would provide me with an outline of the process to become
illegal (retroactively if possible) and copies of the necessary forms,
I would be most appreciative.




Thank you for your assistance.





Your Loyal Constituent,




Donald Ruppert




Burlington , IA







Get your Forms (NOW)!! Call your Internal Revenue Service
1-800-289-1040.

Sounds like a great gig!
Sign me up!

Thanks Marrdro, thats exactly what I was thinking when I read that article..how do I become an illegal alien.

Seems like a pretty good life, wonder if I can get a break on gas as well to feed my boats, now that I'll have a lot more time to use them.

"tastywaves" wrote:

Thanks Marrdro, thats exactly what I was thinking when I read that article..how do I become an illegal alien.

Seems like a pretty good life, wonder if I can get a break on gas as well to feed my boats, now that I'll have a lot more time to use them.

What kind of boats do you have.
I am jealous already.
I can only (just) afford one.
;D

"Marrdro" wrote:

"tastywaves" wrote:

Thanks Marrdro, thats exactly what I was thinking when I read that article..how do I become an illegal alien.

Seems like a pretty good life, wonder if I can get a break on gas as well to feed my boats, now that I'll have a lot more time to use them.

What kind of boats do you have.
I am jealous already.
I can only (just) afford one.
;D

I have a ski boat and a cruiser.
I'm a pretty avid water skier so need that one.
The lake gets pretty rough on the weekends so the cruiser works well.
Good for overnight trips or taking big crews out.
Not sure I can afford them, but WTH, you only live once.

"tastywaves" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"tastywaves" wrote:

Thanks Marrdro, thats exactly what I was thinking when I read that article..how do I become an illegal alien.

Seems like a pretty good life, wonder if I can get a break on gas as well to feed my boats, now that I'll have a lot more time to use them.

What kind of boats do you have.
I am jealous already.
I can only (just) afford one.
;D

I have a ski boat and a cruiser.
I'm a pretty avid water skier so need that one.
The lake gets pretty rough on the weekends so the cruiser works well.
Good for overnight trips or taking big crews out.
Not sure I can afford them, but WTH, you only live once.

Stick a pic in the Member Pic III thread.

"Marrdro" wrote:

"tastywaves" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"tastywaves" wrote:

Thanks Marrdro, thats exactly what I was thinking when I read that article..how do I become an illegal alien.

Seems like a pretty good life, wonder if I can get a break on gas as well to feed my boats, now that I'll have a lot more time to use them.

What kind of boats do you have.
I am jealous already.
I can only (just) afford one.
;D

I have a ski boat and a cruiser.
I'm a pretty avid water skier so need that one.
The lake gets pretty rough on the weekends so the cruiser works well.
Good for overnight trips or taking big crews out.
Not sure I can afford them, but WTH, you only live once.

Stick a pic in the Member Pic III thread.

I'll see if I can dig one up and post it.

"tastywaves" wrote:

I have a ski boat and a cruiser.
I'm a pretty avid water skier so need that one.
The lake gets pretty rough on the weekends so the cruiser works well.
Good for overnight trips or taking big crews out.
Not sure I can afford them, but WTH, you only live once.

I love water skiing too.
Try to make it out to a nearby lake at least 3 or 4 days a week.
This year though, I've been converting more and more to wakeboarding.

What kind of ski boat do you have?

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"tastywaves" wrote:

I have a ski boat and a cruiser.
I'm a pretty avid water skier so need that one.
The lake gets pretty rough on the weekends so the cruiser works well.
Good for overnight trips or taking big crews out.
Not sure I can afford them, but WTH, you only live once.

I love water skiing too.
Try to make it out to a nearby lake at least 3 or 4 days a week.
This year though, I've been converting more and more to wakeboarding.

What kind of ski boat do you have?

Its a Malibu Echelon that I bought new in '94.
14th season and its still running great.
I'm mostly a barefoot and slalom guy and probably only get in 2 days a week with travel (and finding a driver, had to get my wife out of bed this morning to do the deed). We can go year round here with a drysuit, but I like to take 3-4 months off during the colder season.
Grew up in MN, but my bones don't take the cold like they used to.