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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'

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    Is Devin Hester really that fast?? Didnt he run a 4.30+ or something?..

    Theres talk that Ted Ginn has ran a 40 in 4.00->4.10 range..
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash

    Many reported times are unreliable due to differences in timing methods if not intentional falsifications. The fastest time officially recorded by the NFL was 4.29 seconds by Cameron Jobe in 1989 [1], although the NFL did not begin electronic timing until 1990. In the electronic timing era, the fastest recorded time at the NFL Combine was 4.25 seconds (hand time) by cornerback Fabian Washington in 2005. However, his official time at the 2005 Combine was 4.31 seconds[2] Most other times close to 4.0 are untrustworthy due to the use of hand timing, but still many use hand timed 40's such as players including Jerome Mathis (4.25) [3],DeAngelo Hall (4.15)[4][5], Michael Vick (4.25),Lee Suggs (4.27)[6], Bo Jackson (4.12)[7], Don Beebe (4.21)[1], Michael Bennett (4.13)[8], Randy Moss (4.25)[9], Darrell Green (4.15[10], 4.2[11]), Laveranues Coles (4.2)[12], and Nicky Schlatz (4.00)[13] have approached that mark. Although 40 yards almost never run, the 60 meter dash is a well-regulated, frequently ran track and field distance, the official record for which is 6.39 seconds. However, tapes of sprinter Ben Johnson's world-record breaking 1988 100 meter dash (which was later annulled due to Johnson's steroid use) show that Johnson ran the 60 m in 6.37 seconds; this is considered the quickest start to a race ever.[14] Johnson covered the first 40 meters in 4.53 seconds. It is often reported wrongly that Johnson's first 40 yards was timed; it was actually his first 40 meters. His 40 yard time was an exceptionally fast 4.14 seconds.

    However, in track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.10 to 0.20 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock (after a reaction time of 0.1 to 0.2 seconds). This difference would indicate that, at peak form, Johnson would have been electronically timed in 4.04 to 4.14 seconds, or hand-timed in about 4.00 seconds, making claims of hand-held times in the 4.1-4.2 range more credible.

    While some information is accurate in this "best times" section, many of the times themselves are not accurate. Some of those times were not among the times recorded for these players at the Combine.

    In fact, there is no such thing as one, single "official" time in the 40 at the Indianapolis Combine.
    If Ted Ginn really could run a 4.1 40, he should stop playing football and run track and field full time, as that is world-record speed.

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    Why? Is there really a market for track and field athletes?

    I think the guy is looking to be PAID.

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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "skum" wrote:
    Is Devin Hester really that fast?? Didnt he run a 4.30+ or something?..

    Theres talk that Ted Ginn has ran a 40 in 4.00->4.10 range..
    Where?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash

    Many reported times are unreliable due to differences in timing methods if not intentional falsifications. The fastest time officially recorded by the NFL was 4.29 seconds by Cameron Jobe in 1989 [1], although the NFL did not begin electronic timing until 1990. In the electronic timing era, the fastest recorded time at the NFL Combine was 4.25 seconds (hand time) by cornerback Fabian Washington in 2005. However, his official time at the 2005 Combine was 4.31 seconds[2] Most other times close to 4.0 are untrustworthy due to the use of hand timing, but still many use hand timed 40's such as players including Jerome Mathis (4.25) [3],DeAngelo Hall (4.15)[4][5], Michael Vick (4.25),Lee Suggs (4.27)[6], Bo Jackson (4.12)[7], Don Beebe (4.21)[1], Michael Bennett (4.13)[8], Randy Moss (4.25)[9], Darrell Green (4.15[10], 4.2[11]), Laveranues Coles (4.2)[12], and Nicky Schlatz (4.00)[13] have approached that mark. Although 40 yards almost never run, the 60 meter dash is a well-regulated, frequently ran track and field distance, the official record for which is 6.39 seconds. However, tapes of sprinter Ben Johnson's world-record breaking 1988 100 meter dash (which was later annulled due to Johnson's steroid use) show that Johnson ran the 60 m in 6.37 seconds; this is considered the quickest start to a race ever.[14] Johnson covered the first 40 meters in 4.53 seconds. It is often reported wrongly that Johnson's first 40 yards was timed; it was actually his first 40 meters. His 40 yard time was an exceptionally fast 4.14 seconds.

    However, in track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.10 to 0.20 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock (after a reaction time of 0.1 to 0.2 seconds). This difference would indicate that, at peak form, Johnson would have been electronically timed in 4.04 to 4.14 seconds, or hand-timed in about 4.00 seconds, making claims of hand-held times in the 4.1-4.2 range more credible.

    While some information is accurate in this "best times" section, many of the times themselves are not accurate. Some of those times were not among the times recorded for these players at the Combine.

    In fact, there is no such thing as one, single "official" time in the 40 at the Indianapolis Combine.
    If Ted Ginn really could run a 4.1 40, he should stop playing football and run track and field full time, as that is world-record speed.

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    His Speed-coach Butch Reynolds has said that Ted Ginn can run 27 miles pr hour topspeed.. thats insane..

    Ted Ginn was also considered as one of the fastest men in the land when he was in high school.. He won the american championship in 110 meter hurdle..

    The 4.1 time i believe was an 4.06 time, reported by the New York Daily News back in the start of this year.. But i dont know if it was only a rumour.. But Ted Ginn is a insane runner and i would love for him to play in Minnesota..


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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'

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    This was posted on 02/09/07....saying that the NY Jets Justin Miller is the NFL's fastest man. He'll probably get a 98 on Madden 08

    http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/articles/show_permalink/miller-is-the-nfl-s-fastest-man
    That was a probowl skills challenge, so he was the NFL fastest Pro Bowler..


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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'

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    "Zeus" wrote:
    "skum" wrote:
    Is Devin Hester really that fast?? Didnt he run a 4.30+ or something?..

    Theres talk that Ted Ginn has ran a 40 in 4.00->4.10 range..
    Where?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash

    Many reported times are unreliable due to differences in timing methods if not intentional falsifications. The fastest time officially recorded by the NFL was 4.29 seconds by Cameron Jobe in 1989 [1], although the NFL did not begin electronic timing until 1990. In the electronic timing era, the fastest recorded time at the NFL Combine was 4.25 seconds (hand time) by cornerback Fabian Washington in 2005. However, his official time at the 2005 Combine was 4.31 seconds[2] Most other times close to 4.0 are untrustworthy due to the use of hand timing, but still many use hand timed 40's such as players including Jerome Mathis (4.25) [3],DeAngelo Hall (4.15)[4][5], Michael Vick (4.25),Lee Suggs (4.27)[6], Bo Jackson (4.12)[7], Don Beebe (4.21)[1], Michael Bennett (4.13)[8], Randy Moss (4.25)[9], Darrell Green (4.15[10], 4.2[11]), Laveranues Coles (4.2)[12], and Nicky Schlatz (4.00)[13] have approached that mark. Although 40 yards almost never run, the 60 meter dash is a well-regulated, frequently ran track and field distance, the official record for which is 6.39 seconds. However, tapes of sprinter Ben Johnson's world-record breaking 1988 100 meter dash (which was later annulled due to Johnson's steroid use) show that Johnson ran the 60 m in 6.37 seconds; this is considered the quickest start to a race ever.[14] Johnson covered the first 40 meters in 4.53 seconds. It is often reported wrongly that Johnson's first 40 yards was timed; it was actually his first 40 meters. His 40 yard time was an exceptionally fast 4.14 seconds.

    However, in track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.10 to 0.20 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock (after a reaction time of 0.1 to 0.2 seconds). This difference would indicate that, at peak form, Johnson would have been electronically timed in 4.04 to 4.14 seconds, or hand-timed in about 4.00 seconds, making claims of hand-held times in the 4.1-4.2 range more credible.

    While some information is accurate in this "best times" section, many of the times themselves are not accurate. Some of those times were not among the times recorded for these players at the Combine.

    In fact, there is no such thing as one, single "official" time in the 40 at the Indianapolis Combine.
    If Ted Ginn really could run a 4.1 40, he should stop playing football and run track and field full time, as that is world-record speed.

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    Why? Is there really a market for track and field athletes?

    I think the guy is looking to be PAID.
    He said he wanted to play Football because he loves the game, in track and field it was just running .. in football it was both running and playing football.. he said..


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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'

    he's the first guy to reach 100 in any game isnt he?

    that's BS. beating deon & randy moss? (ecspecially moss' rookie year, come on)


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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'


    Giving him a 100 for speed is about as smart as pricing the PS3 out of most peoples' price ranges.....which basically means I could care less on a personal level, since I won't be able to play the game at all anytime soon...unless I hit the lottery, that is.

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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'

    I thought the max for any stat was 99. Or is it now 100 for the new game?

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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'

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    I thought the max for any stat was 99. Or is it now 100 for the new game?
    i didn't even think about that but you are right.
    reading the other article about how inaccurate the times at the combine are it makes me wonder why they don't use an comuterized timing method, wouldn't that be more accurate and better for the scouts and the teams that draft the player?

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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'

    thats cool for him i guess, very overrated to give him a 100, but o well now if they bring back fantasy draft for the 360 version then id be set, after i win the superbowl with the vikings of course
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    Thanks josdin00

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    Re: Bears Hester gets 100 speed rating in Madden 08'

    they should have given his agility and jooking ability a perfect 100. he is not the fastest guy in the nfl so there is no need for a 100 rating.
    ???

    i hope they gave his cover skills a 72 cause he sucks as a corner.

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