Angry crowd kills passenger in car that struck child

**cogitans** · 06-21-2007, 01:43 PM

"Marrdro" wrote:

"cogitans" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"cogitans" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

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The article doesn't really give enough information as to how the accident took place.
If the driver was doing something stupid...such as racing around a neighborhood, than yeah I'd like to douse his testicles in lighterfluid and toss the match.
If the parents were being careless and letting their child run through a parking lot, then maybe the parents should have been the victims to the mob.
The story is a poor one with limited facts and information.

Again no matter what. There shouldn't be a mob. Neither at the guy, nor at the parents.

No there should not have been a mob...but what difference does it make if the dude died as a result of injuries from one huge pissed off dude, or a mob of angry people...Either way the guy is dead.

That's just wrong

???

What is just wrong?

If I have to accept that it's a fact that the dude is dead anyway. Then there is something wrong somewhere
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I wasn't trying to say it's no big deal...
Just that exactly how he died is somewhat irrelevant.

I guess the question I got out of it was...

Was it vigalante justice?, or irrational murder based on idiot presumtions?
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vigilante can never be justice
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Cog.
If you stood there and watched someone run over your kid, your first response would be what?

I for one would want some..... :

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It's hard to judge about hypothetical scenarios. But I feel pretty confident that I would never take justice into my own hand. And as long as I didn't risk my own life I'd go far to try and prevent others in entering that enterprise as well.

**Marrdro** · 06-21-2007, 01:45 PM

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"cogitans" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"cogitans" wrote:

[quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=35195.msg594731#msg594731 date=1182450199]
[quote author=cogitans link=topic=35195.msg594730#msg594730 date=1182450061]
[quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=35195.msg594729#msg594729 date=1182450010]
[quote author=cogitans link=topic=35195.msg594725#msg594725 date=1182449575]
[quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=35195.msg594723#msg594723 date=1182449479]
The article doesn't really give enough information as to how the accident took place.
If the driver was doing something stupid...such as racing around a neighborhood, than yeah I'd like to douse his testicles in lighterfluid and toss the match.
If the parents were being careless and letting their child run through a parking lot, then maybe the parents should have been the victims to the mob.
The story is a poor one with limited facts and information.

Again no matter what. There shouldn't be a mob. Neither at the guy, nor at the parents.

No there should not have been a mob...but what difference does it make if the dude died as a result of injuries from one huge pissed off dude, or a mob of angry people...Either way the guy is dead.

That's just wrong

???

What is just wrong?

If I have to accept that it's a fact that the dude is dead anyway. Then there is something wrong somewhere
[/quote]

I wasn't trying to say it's no big deal...
Just that exactly how he died is somewhat irrelevant.

I guess the question I got out of it was...

Was it vigalante justice?, or irrational murder based on idiot presumtions?
[/quote]
vigilante can never be justice
[/quote]
Cog.
If you stood there and watched someone run over your kid, your first response would be what?

I for one would want some..... :

[/quote]

Exactly Marr!
Like I said, if it were my kid and it happened outside my home, under my close supervision... I'd take out the golf club, lighter fluid and a match out of my garage..then proceed with some vigalante justice.

Then I'd kiss my wife goodbye and head off to prison.
Once you take my two year old child, you might as well take me with.
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As I stated, I am not a supporter of group vigalante justice but I am a proponent of sticking up for whats mine.

Again, my first comment was based on what came to my mind when I first read this.

Glad the kid isn't hurt and I feel sorry for the guys partner/passanger but............

**Prophet** · 06-21-2007, 01:46 PM

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

...Exactly Marr!
Like I said, if it were my kid and it happened outside my home, under my close supervision... I'd take out the golf club, lighter fluid and a match out of my garage..then proceed with some vigalante justice.

Then I'd kiss my wife goodbye and head off to prison.
Once you take my two year old child, you might as well take me with.

....unless you are the idiot that lets your two-year old child play unsupervised in the parking lot.
You would be better off using the juice on yourself.

**cogitans** · 06-21-2007, 01:47 PM

"Marrdro" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"cogitans" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

[quote author=cogitans link=topic=35195.msg594732#msg594732 date=1182450260]
[quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=35195.msg594731#msg594731 date=1182450199]
[quote author=cogitans link=topic=35195.msg594730#msg594730 date=1182450061]
[quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=35195.msg594729#msg594729 date=1182450010]
[quote author=cogitans link=topic=35195.msg594725#msg594725 date=1182449575]
[quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=35195.msg594723#msg594723 date=1182449479]
The article doesn't really give enough information as to how the accident took place.
If the driver was doing something stupid...such as racing around a neighborhood, than yeah I'd like to douse his testicles in lighterfluid and toss the match.
If the parents were being careless and letting their child run through a parking lot, then maybe the parents should have been the victims to the mob.
The story is a poor one with limited facts and information.

Again no matter what. There shouldn't be a mob. Neither at the guy, nor at the parents.

No there should not have been a mob...but what difference does it make if the dude died as a result of injuries from one huge pissed off dude, or a mob of angry people...Either way the guy is dead.

That's just wrong

???

What is just wrong?

If I have to accept that it's a fact that the dude is dead anyway. Then there is something wrong somewhere
[/quote]

I wasn't trying to say it's no big deal...
Just that exactly how he died is somewhat irrelevant.

I guess the question I got out of it was...

Was it vigalante justice?, or irrational murder based on idiot presumtions?
[/quote]
vigilante can never be justice
[/quote]
Cog.
If you stood there and watched someone run over your kid, your first response would be what?

I for one would want some..... :

[/quote]

Exactly Marr!
Like I said, if it were my kid and it happened outside my home, under my close supervision... I'd take out the golf club, lighter fluid and a match out of my garage..then proceed with some vigalante justice.

Then I'd kiss my wife goodbye and head off to prison.
Once you take my two year old child, you might as well take me with.
[/quote]
As I stated, I am not a supporter of group vigalante justice but I am a proponent of sticking up for whats mine.

Again, my first comment was based on what came to my mind when I first read this.

Glad the kid isn't hurt and I feel sorry for the guys partner/passanger but............
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I can easily understand that feeling. And that's why I also say that it's difficult to judge a reaction in a hypothetical scenario.

But I also feel very strongly opposed to people taking justice into there own hands.

**PurplePackerEater** · 06-21-2007, 01:53 PM

First of all, it was the PASSENGER that was killed. What did HE do to "deserve" anything? He wasn't driving, he wasn't the negligent parent of the child, he was a passenger in a automobile.

Did I miss something ???

**Marrdro** · 06-21-2007, 01:55 PM

"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

First of all, it was the PASSENGER that was killed. What did HE do to "deserve" anything? He wasn't driving, he wasn't the negligent parent of the child, he was a passenger in a automobile.

Did I miss something ???

Naw PPE I just went down a path of first instincts/thoughts.

As I stated, I am not a supporter of group vigalante justice but I am a proponent of sticking up for whats mine.

Again, my first comment was based on what came to my mind when I first read this.

Glad the kid isn't hurt and I feel sorry for the guys partner/passanger but........... .

**BloodyHorns82** · 06-21-2007, 01:57 PM

"Prophet" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

...Exactly Marr!
Like I said, if it were my kid and it happened outside my home, under my close supervision... I'd take out the golf club, lighter fluid and a match out of my garage..then proceed with some vigalante justice.

Then I'd kiss my wife goodbye and head off to prison.
Once you take my two year old child, you might as well take me with.

....unless you are the idiot that lets your two-year old child play unsupervised in the parking lot.
You would be better off using the juice on yourself.

Makes you wonder...I don't recall anything being said about the parents location.
They were probably around the corner smokin the cheese.

**BloodyHorns82** · 06-21-2007, 02:02 PM

"cogitans" wrote:

I can easily understand that feeling. And that's why I also say that it's difficult to judge a reaction in a hypothetical scenario.

But I also feel very strongly opposed to people taking justice into there own hands.

I completely agree with you Cogs.
There is rarely a case when vigalante justice is truely for the better.
It would be difficult at times to sit back and wait for the police to do there thing.
There is absolutly no reason for the passenger of this car to get murdered, but I'm betting there is more to the story than we are hearing.
It is really sad...nobody wins.
Hopefully they catch members of this "mob" and lock them away.

**tastywaves** · 06-21-2007, 02:05 PM

"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

First of all, it was the PASSENGER that was killed. What did HE do to "deserve" anything? He wasn't driving, he wasn't the negligent parent of the child, he was a passenger in a automobile.

Did I miss something ???

Nope, the guy that was killed did absolutely nothing but try to protect the driver from the mob. I live in Austin as well where this happened and saw the story on the news, however, the details are lacking.
Sounds like somebody decided these guys needed to be beat up and the rest joined in.
I wasn't there so I don't know if the driver was being an idiot, but either way it got out of hand.

Here's what I read: http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?s=6685739

**cajunvike** · 06-21-2007, 03:05 PM

Members said the community should not to look at this as race-on-race violence.

"We also want them to know that it is not black versus Hispanic or any type of racial situation," said Rita Gonzales Garza of LULAC. "We want the community, both black, brown and white, to work together to help solve this crime and bring justice."