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    Troy Smith for Heisman!

    If any of you saw the osu / michigan game you will see that troy smith will win heisman. And if any of you think that Quinn deserves it go to ESPN.com and look at the heisman watch they will say that troy already has it wrapped up He is the greatest player in 2006 quinn sux.

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    Re: Troy Smith for Heisman!

    Quinn dosnt suck.. But yes, Troy Smith has had a better season.. But look at the draft.. Quinn is the top5 pick and Troy Smith is a borderline firstrounder..


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    Re: Troy Smith for Heisman!

    "skum" wrote:
    Quinn dosnt suck.. But yes, Troy Smith has had a better season.. But look at the draft.. Quinn is the top5 pick and Troy Smith is a borderline firstrounder..
    No, Quinn most definitely does not suck.
    He has actually had an amazing season, just not as amazing as some assumed he would.
    His numbers are outstanding and he will be the first QB taken in next years draft.
    That said, my vote would also be for Troy Smith.
    He's simply outplayed all the other canidates game by game.
    I think Quinn still has an outsiders shot if he rolls into USC and wins with some outstanding numbers but as of right now Smith seems like the winner.

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    Re: Troy Smith for Heisman!

    that what i dont understand how can smith be a borderline first rounder? why does nobody like him in the nfl?
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    Re: Troy Smith for Heisman!

    Quinn is good.

    Against Army, Navy, Air Force, Standford, and NC.

    You gotta be good against those powerhouse teams.

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    Re: Troy Smith for Heisman!

    "mr.woo" wrote:
    that what i dont understand how can smith be a borderline first rounder? why does nobody like him in the nfl?
    http://football.about.com/od/nationa.../troysmith.htm

    Troy Smith
    Position: Quarterback
    School: Ohio State
    Status: Senior
    Height: 6-1
    Weight: 215
    40-Yard Dash: 4.60 (EST)

    Positives:
    Smith is a kid who's turning a lot of heads these past two years. He's gone from “who's that?” starter in mid 2004, to a breakout player in 2005, to the Heismann favorite leading the nation's No. 1 team (as of this writing). Troy has been gifted with a big arm, arguably the strongest in the draft, as well as very quick feet and great overall athleticism.

    His field vision and ability to read coverages is also far superior to what you'd normally expect from an athletic-mold QB, especially in the college ranks. He also possesses a very quick feel for pressure, and can ably use his legs to get away from it and create plays.

    Negatives:
    As athletically gifted as Smith is, he is rather small for a QB, with some reports of his height being as low as 5' 11”, although his generally accepted height is the still rather short 6' 1”. His lean frame won't lend him well to the sheer pounding of the NFL. Another concern is his accuracy; one cannot help but notice his receivers adjust and even abandon routes to get to one of many balls that he throws off-target.
    Also, in his year and a half of starting prior to the 2006 season, Smith had a tendency to take off and run a bit more often than you like to see for an NFL prospect. While he has cut down on that dramatically in 2006, it's still something to keep in the back of your mind, as there have been a number of occasions where Smith starts to make that break, then changes his mind and hauls off a pass.

    Overview:
    Troy Smith is a bit of an oddity as a draft prospect. On one hand, he seems very polished, picking apart defenses and making a name for himself. On the other, he seems very raw, with an occasionally wild arm, and periodic strange decisions. However, with his strong play and significant exposure, expect several teams to look at him high in the draft, as he looks like he could almost be in a John Elway type of mold. The fact that it's a very shallow-looking draft pool at QB should help his case considerably as well.

    Projection: Mid to high first round

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    I'd have to agree that Troy Smith will win ....

    I heard someone on the radio call him "The Larry Holmes" of this years Heisman. A champion who reigns over a bunch of nobodies. Pretty harsh IMO....
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    Re: Troy Smith for Heisman!

    Smith is a lock.
    If he doesn't get it, there would be a lot of controversy.


    You can make reasonable cases for a few guys, mainly Brady Quinn, maybe Pat White or Steve Slaton from WV, maybe even Chris Leak, and I'm sure there's a few others but Smith has the best resume by far.
    I'd consider Quinn a distant second.

    Who all was invited to the presentation?
    Don't they normally have it narrowed down to 4 or 5 guys by now anyway?
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    Re: Troy Smith for Heisman!

    "AWZeus" wrote:
    "mr.woo" wrote:
    that what i dont understand how can smith be a borderline first rounder? why does nobody like him in the nfl?
    http://football.about.com/od/nationa.../troysmith.htm

    Troy Smith
    Position: Quarterback
    School: Ohio State
    Status: Senior
    Height: 6-1
    Weight: 215

    40-Yard Dash: 4.60 (EST)

    Positives:
    Smith is a kid who's turning a lot of heads these past two years. He's gone from “who's that?” starter in mid 2004, to a breakout player in 2005, to the Heismann favorite leading the nation's No. 1 team (as of this writing). Troy has been gifted with a big arm, arguably the strongest in the draft, as well as very quick feet and great overall athleticism.

    His field vision and ability to read coverages is also far superior to what you'd normally expect from an athletic-mold QB, especially in the college ranks. He also possesses a very quick feel for pressure, and can ably use his legs to get away from it and create plays.

    Negatives:
    As athletically gifted as Smith is, he is rather small for a QB, with some reports of his height being as low as 5' 11”, although his generally accepted height is the still rather short 6' 1”. His lean frame won't lend him well to the sheer pounding of the NFL. Another concern is his accuracy; one cannot help but notice his receivers adjust and even abandon routes to get to one of many balls that he throws off-target.
    Also, in his year and a half of starting prior to the 2006 season, Smith had a tendency to take off and run a bit more often than you like to see for an NFL prospect. While he has cut down on that dramatically in 2006, it's still something to keep in the back of your mind, as there have been a number of occasions where Smith starts to make that break, then changes his mind and hauls off a pass.

    Overview:
    Troy Smith is a bit of an oddity as a draft prospect. On one hand, he seems very polished, picking apart defenses and making a name for himself. On the other, he seems very raw, with an occasionally wild arm, and periodic strange decisions. However, with his strong play and significant exposure, expect several teams to look at him high in the draft, as he looks like he could almost be in a John Elway type of mold. The fact that it's a very shallow-looking draft pool at QB should help his case considerably as well.

    Projection: Mid to high first round

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    Re: Troy Smith for Heisman!

    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "AWZeus" wrote:
    "mr.woo" wrote:
    that what i dont understand how can smith be a borderline first rounder? why does nobody like him in the nfl?
    http://football.about.com/od/nationa.../troysmith.htm

    Troy Smith
    Position: Quarterback
    School: Ohio State
    Status: Senior
    Height: 6-1
    Weight: 215

    40-Yard Dash: 4.60 (EST)

    Positives:
    Smith is a kid who's turning a lot of heads these past two years. He's gone from “who's that?” starter in mid 2004, to a breakout player in 2005, to the Heismann favorite leading the nation's No. 1 team (as of this writing). Troy has been gifted with a big arm, arguably the strongest in the draft, as well as very quick feet and great overall athleticism.

    His field vision and ability to read coverages is also far superior to what you'd normally expect from an athletic-mold QB, especially in the college ranks. He also possesses a very quick feel for pressure, and can ably use his legs to get away from it and create plays.

    Negatives:
    As athletically gifted as Smith is, he is rather small for a QB, with some reports of his height being as low as 5' 11”, although his generally accepted height is the still rather short 6' 1”. His lean frame won't lend him well to the sheer pounding of the NFL. Another concern is his accuracy; one cannot help but notice his receivers adjust and even abandon routes to get to one of many balls that he throws off-target.
    Also, in his year and a half of starting prior to the 2006 season, Smith had a tendency to take off and run a bit more often than you like to see for an NFL prospect. While he has cut down on that dramatically in 2006, it's still something to keep in the back of your mind, as there have been a number of occasions where Smith starts to make that break, then changes his mind and hauls off a pass.

    Overview:
    Troy Smith is a bit of an oddity as a draft prospect. On one hand, he seems very polished, picking apart defenses and making a name for himself. On the other, he seems very raw, with an occasionally wild arm, and periodic strange decisions. However, with his strong play and significant exposure, expect several teams to look at him high in the draft, as he looks like he could almost be in a John Elway type of mold. The fact that it's a very shallow-looking draft pool at QB should help his case considerably as well.

    Projection: Mid to high first round

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    see Jeff Garcia
    see Michael Vick
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