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    Re: Is Anybody Surprised by Hawaii?

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    I am here to eat some crow. Hawaii sucks and should have never been considered in the National Championship!
    Not only does Hawaii suck but so did Brennan. Who was it here that wanted the Vikings to draft him?
    ;D
    uh hawaii doesnt suck we just got outplayed and played a hot georgia team. like i said o-line is to blame with all those shots he was taking back there and no blocking whatsoever. we are a lot better team than what showed last night even if we did play a weak schedule. but cant blame that no one wants to play hawaii anymore.

    michigan state backed out this year, michigan turned us down to play at michigan, texas backed out a few years ago, even purdue didnt want a part with us even though they actually manned up and played us last year. the list goes on and will go on as long as june is the coach here and we have a potent offense.
    LOL!
    That's because those teams did not want a weaker schedule.
    why dont you tell your ad to schedule us and will see if ohio state is man enough to play us cuz im more than confident that we can beat osu. the little ten aint got nothing on the sec esp since we beat a number of little ten teams already.
    I like Hawaii... I really do... But Ohio State would demolish you guys.
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    I love how you guys hate Brennan. Oh his competition sucks with that weak schedule. Even though he dominated that can't be taken into consideration because its a weak schedule. And he struggled during that Georgia game. Well it was hard for him to succeed when he was under pressure every play. That O-line got out played by Georgia. What if I said "Oh he just needs more time." If we draft Tarvaris Jackson who did average against all D-I-AA schools in the second round what makes you think someone has dominated crappy D-I-A schools (and a few good ones) wouldn't be drafted by us in the second round. So why is it that the same guys who don't like Brennan because he dominated crappy opponents defend a guy who was average against even crappier opponents. I just don't get it.
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    Re: Is Anybody Surprised by Hawaii?

    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    I am here to eat some crow. Hawaii sucks and should have never been considered in the National Championship!
    Not only does Hawaii suck but so did Brennan. Who was it here that wanted the Vikings to draft him?

    ;D
    uh hawaii doesnt suck we just got outplayed and played a hot georgia team. like i said o-line is to blame with all those shots he was taking back there and no blocking whatsoever. we are a lot better team than what showed last night even if we did play a weak schedule. but cant blame that no one wants to play hawaii anymore.

    michigan state backed out this year, michigan turned us down to play at michigan, texas backed out a few years ago, even purdue didnt want a part with us even though they actually manned up and played us last year. the list goes on and will go on as long as june is the coach here and we have a potent offense.
    LOL!
    That's because those teams did not want a weaker schedule.
    why dont you tell your ad to schedule us and will see if ohio state is man enough to play us cuz im more than confident that we can beat osu. the little ten aint got nothing on the sec esp since we beat a number of little ten teams already.
    LMAO!
    Precious!


    Whose we?
    Last time I checked, Hawaii was in the WAC.
    Oh....I see.
    You are jumping on the SEC bandwagon now.
    LOL!

    And who did the SEC beat in the Big 10 in Bowl games?
    TN beat Wisc and Mich beat Florida?


    So I am not really sure what you are referring to.
    Just face it, Hawaii is descent but they simply cannot compete vs big schools (as if the GA game was not a clear indication).


    LOL...beat OSU.



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    Re: Is Anybody Surprised by Hawaii?

    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
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    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=41184.msg701278#msg701278 date=1199290176]
    I am here to eat some crow. Hawaii sucks and should have never been considered in the National Championship!
    Not only does Hawaii suck but so did Brennan. Who was it here that wanted the Vikings to draft him?
    ;D
    uh hawaii doesnt suck we just got outplayed and played a hot georgia team. like i said o-line is to blame with all those shots he was taking back there and no blocking whatsoever. we are a lot better team than what showed last night even if we did play a weak schedule. but cant blame that no one wants to play hawaii anymore.

    michigan state backed out this year, michigan turned us down to play at michigan, texas backed out a few years ago, even purdue didnt want a part with us even though they actually manned up and played us last year. the list goes on and will go on as long as june is the coach here and we have a potent offense.
    LOL!
    That's because those teams did not want a weaker schedule.
    why dont you tell your ad to schedule us and will see if ohio state is man enough to play us cuz im more than confident that we can beat osu. the little ten aint got nothing on the sec esp since we beat a number of little ten teams already.
    LMAO!
    Precious!


    Whose we?
    Last time I checked, Hawaii was in the WAC.
    Oh....I see.
    You are jumping on the SEC bandwagon now.
    LOL!

    And who did the SEC beat in the Big 10 in Bowl games?
    TN beat Wisc and Mich beat Florida?


    So I am not really sure what you are referring to.
    Just face it, Hawaii is descent but they simply cannot compete vs big schools (as if the GA game was not a clear indication).


    LOL...beat OSU.



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    Re: Is Anybody Surprised by Hawaii?

    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=41184.msg701278#msg701278 date=1199290176]
    I am here to eat some crow. Hawaii sucks and should have never been considered in the National Championship!
    Not only does Hawaii suck but so did Brennan. Who was it here that wanted the Vikings to draft him?
    ;D
    uh hawaii doesnt suck we just got outplayed and played a hot georgia team. like i said o-line is to blame with all those shots he was taking back there and no blocking whatsoever. we are a lot better team than what showed last night even if we did play a weak schedule. but cant blame that no one wants to play hawaii anymore.

    michigan state backed out this year, michigan turned us down to play at michigan, texas backed out a few years ago, even purdue didnt want a part with us even though they actually manned up and played us last year. the list goes on and will go on as long as june is the coach here and we have a potent offense.
    LOL!
    That's because those teams did not want a weaker schedule.
    why dont you tell your ad to schedule us and will see if ohio state is man enough to play us cuz im more than confident that we can beat osu. the little ten aint got nothing on the sec esp since we beat a number of little ten teams already.
    LMAO!
    Precious!


    Whose we?
    Last time I checked, Hawaii was in the WAC.
    Oh....I see.
    You are jumping on the SEC bandwagon now.
    LOL!

    And who did the SEC beat in the Big 10 in Bowl games?
    TN beat Wisc and Mich beat Florida?


    So I am not really sure what you are referring to.
    Just face it, Hawaii is descent but they simply cannot compete vs big schools (as if the GA game was not a clear indication).


    LOL...beat OSU.



    [/quote]

    we bein hawaii. yep were in the wac and if were were in a bcs conference i guarantee you we would have a higher recruiting budget than the lame 50,000 dollar a year budget we have which means better recruiting. all these non bcs teams get the leftovers, the two and three star recruits, so
    of course we are going to get outmatched by a lot of the elite teams which come from the sec. a lot of them are four and five star recruits, best talent comes from there too that
    why i give them mad propz.

    get this 11 of the 12 teams from the sec made a bowl game with the lone team being vanderbilt if im not mistaken being the only team to not make a bowl game. the sec is the best conference hand down, and no im not jumping on their bandwagon, just stating facts and givin them props.

    seriously and i dont hate osu other than the fact that they made me lose money against florida last year > i think you can add osu to that list in a rout by lsu. if the sec faced the big ten head to head, i think the sec would dominate big time. florida not good this year lost to michigan cuz they had no d. but last year they really showed how dominant they usually are against the likes of the best big ten team.

    oh and believe me we can compete with the best but if we had an o-line that could block, the game would have been a lot closer. 6 turnovers off of pressure is hard to overcome. over the past few years we beat michigan state, arizona state, alabama, purdue, northwestern, washington, and some other schools. we just got beat by an elite sec team that could have been playing in the title game.

    do you honestly think osu could beat georiga? i think georgia would win while controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
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    Re: Is Anybody Surprised by Hawaii?

    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
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    [quote author=COJOMAY link=topic=41184.msg701294#msg701294 date=1199290752]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=41184.msg701278#msg701278 date=1199290176]
    I am here to eat some crow. Hawaii sucks and should have never been considered in the National Championship!
    Not only does Hawaii suck but so did Brennan. Who was it here that wanted the Vikings to draft him?

    ;D
    uh hawaii doesnt suck we just got outplayed and played a hot georgia team. like i said o-line is to blame with all those shots he was taking back there and no blocking whatsoever. we are a lot better team than what showed last night even if we did play a weak schedule. but cant blame that no one wants to play hawaii anymore.

    michigan state backed out this year, michigan turned us down to play at michigan, texas backed out a few years ago, even purdue didnt want a part with us even though they actually manned up and played us last year. the list goes on and will go on as long as june is the coach here and we have a potent offense.
    LOL!
    That's because those teams did not want a weaker schedule.
    why dont you tell your ad to schedule us and will see if ohio state is man enough to play us cuz im more than confident that we can beat osu. the little ten aint got nothing on the sec esp since we beat a number of little ten teams already.
    LMAO!
    Precious!


    Whose we?
    Last time I checked, Hawaii was in the WAC.
    Oh....I see.
    You are jumping on the SEC bandwagon now.
    LOL!

    And who did the SEC beat in the Big 10 in Bowl games?
    TN beat Wisc and Mich beat Florida?


    So I am not really sure what you are referring to.
    Just face it, Hawaii is descent but they simply cannot compete vs big schools (as if the GA game was not a clear indication).


    LOL...beat OSU.



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    we bein hawaii. yep were in the wac and if were were in a bcs conference i guarantee you we would have a higher recruiting budget than the lame 50,000 dollar a year budget we have which means better recruiting. all these non bcs teams get the leftovers, the two and three star recruits, so
    of course we are going to get outmatched by a lot of the elite teams which come from the sec. a lot of them are four and five star recruits, best talent comes from there too that
    why i give them mad propz.

    get this 11 of the 12 teams from the sec made a bowl game with the lone team being vanderbilt if im not mistaken being the only team to not make a bowl game. the sec is the best conference hand down, and no im not jumping on their bandwagon, just stating facts and givin them props.

    seriously and i dont hate osu other than the fact that they made me lose money against florida last year > i think you can add osu to that list in a rout by lsu. if the sec faced the big ten head to head, i think the sec would dominate big time. florida not good this year lost to michigan cuz they had no d. but last year they really showed how dominant they usually are against the likes of the best big ten team.

    oh and believe me we can compete with the best but if we had an o-line that could block, the game would have been a lot closer. 6 turnovers off of pressure is hard to overcome. over the past few years we beat michigan state, arizona state, alabama, purdue, northwestern, washington, and some other schools. we just got beat by an elite sec team that could have been playing in the title game.

    do you honestly think osu could beat georiga? i think georgia would win while controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
    [/quote]

    While I will agree that the sec is a bit better.
    I'm not sure its as far as people believe.
    SEC teams think they are god's gift, but game for game its pretty close to even across the board.
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    Re: Is Anybody Surprised by Hawaii?

    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "hawaiianvike21" wrote:
    [quote author=COJOMAY link=topic=41184.msg701294#msg701294 date=1199290752]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=41184.msg701278#msg701278 date=1199290176]
    I am here to eat some crow. Hawaii sucks and should have never been considered in the National Championship!
    Not only does Hawaii suck but so did Brennan. Who was it here that wanted the Vikings to draft him?

    ;D
    uh hawaii doesnt suck we just got outplayed and played a hot georgia team. like i said o-line is to blame with all those shots he was taking back there and no blocking whatsoever. we are a lot better team than what showed last night even if we did play a weak schedule. but cant blame that no one wants to play hawaii anymore.

    michigan state backed out this year, michigan turned us down to play at michigan, texas backed out a few years ago, even purdue didnt want a part with us even though they actually manned up and played us last year. the list goes on and will go on as long as june is the coach here and we have a potent offense.
    LOL!
    That's because those teams did not want a weaker schedule.
    why dont you tell your ad to schedule us and will see if ohio state is man enough to play us cuz im more than confident that we can beat osu. the little ten aint got nothing on the sec esp since we beat a number of little ten teams already.
    LMAO!
    Precious!


    Whose we?
    Last time I checked, Hawaii was in the WAC.
    Oh....I see.
    You are jumping on the SEC bandwagon now.
    LOL!

    And who did the SEC beat in the Big 10 in Bowl games?
    TN beat Wisc and Mich beat Florida?


    So I am not really sure what you are referring to.
    Just face it, Hawaii is descent but they simply cannot compete vs big schools (as if the GA game was not a clear indication).


    LOL...beat OSU.



    [/quote]

    we bein hawaii. yep were in the wac and if were were in a bcs conference i guarantee you we would have a higher recruiting budget than the lame 50,000 dollar a year budget we have which means better recruiting. all these non bcs teams get the leftovers, the two and three star recruits, so
    of course we are going to get outmatched by a lot of the elite teams which come from the sec. a lot of them are four and five star recruits, best talent comes from there too that
    why i give them mad propz.

    get this 11 of the 12 teams from the sec made a bowl game with the lone team being vanderbilt if im not mistaken being the only team to not make a bowl game. the sec is the best conference hand down, and no im not jumping on their bandwagon, just stating facts and givin them props.

    seriously and i dont hate osu other than the fact that they made me lose money against florida last year > i think you can add osu to that list in a rout by lsu. if the sec faced the big ten head to head, i think the sec would dominate big time. florida not good this year lost to michigan cuz they had no d. but last year they really showed how dominant they usually are against the likes of the best big ten team.

    oh and believe me we can compete with the best but if we had an o-line that could block, the game would have been a lot closer. 6 turnovers off of pressure is hard to overcome. over the past few years we beat michigan state, arizona state, alabama, purdue, northwestern, washington, and some other schools. we just got beat by an elite sec team that could have been playing in the title game.

    do you honestly think osu could beat georiga? i think georgia would win while controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
    [/quote]

    It's really silly to play the "if" game.
    If OSU had a bteer QB we do this and that.
    Hawaii has who they have and that's it.
    I understand that they have a harder time recruiting because of location and the best recruits go to USC, UCLa, etc.

    I do not know what spinning this to GA beating OSU has to do with Hawaii getting stomped.
    GA could beat OSU, sure.
    But OSU would not get beat as bad as Hawaii did and OSU has a good Defense, the best in college.
    We were not even really talking about the Big 10 vs the SEC, this is about Hawaii.

    Hawaii played good all year.
    They beat the teams they had to.
    They just cannot compete with big schools...that's all.

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    I love how you guys hate Brennan. Oh his competition sucks with that weak schedule. Even though he dominated that can't be taken into consideration because its a weak schedule. And he struggled during that Georgia game. Well it was hard for him to succeed when he was under pressure every play. That O-line got out played by Georgia. What if I said "Oh he just needs more time." If we draft Tarvaris Jackson who did average against all D-I-AA schools in the second round what makes you think someone has dominated crappy D-I-A schools (and a few good ones) wouldn't be drafted by us in the second round. So why is it that the same guys who don't like Brennan because he dominated crappy opponents defend a guy who was average against even crappier opponents. I just don't get it.
    Look I know this is hijacking the thread a little, but T-Jack was a lot better than average against I-AA. 2,900 yards, a 60 percent completion rate, 29 TDs and only 5 INTs is better than average.

    I do agree though ... judging Brennan by this one game is a little shortsighted.

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    "midgensa" wrote:
    "PurpleHornsOfDestruction" wrote:
    I love how you guys hate Brennan. Oh his competition sucks with that weak schedule. Even though he dominated that can't be taken into consideration because its a weak schedule. And he struggled during that Georgia game. Well it was hard for him to succeed when he was under pressure every play. That O-line got out played by Georgia. What if I said "Oh he just needs more time." If we draft Tarvaris Jackson who did average against all D-I-AA schools in the second round what makes you think someone has dominated crappy D-I-A schools (and a few good ones) wouldn't be drafted by us in the second round. So why is it that the same guys who don't like Brennan because he dominated crappy opponents defend a guy who was average against even crappier opponents. I just don't get it.
    Look I know this is hijacking the thread a little, but T-Jack was a lot better than average against I-AA. 2,900 yards, a 60 percent completion rate, 29 TDs and only 5 INTs is better than average.

    I do agree though ... judging Brennan by this one game is a little shortsighted.
    I am not.
    I am also considering who he played this year which is what the premise of this thread is.

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    [quote author=hawaiianvike21 link=topic=41184.msg701722#msg701722 date=1199334739]
    [quote author=COJOMAY link=topic=41184.msg701294#msg701294 date=1199290752]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=41184.msg701278#msg701278 date=1199290176]
    I am here to eat some crow. Hawaii sucks and should have never been considered in the National Championship!
    Not only does Hawaii suck but so did Brennan. Who was it here that wanted the Vikings to draft him?
    ;D
    uh hawaii doesnt suck we just got outplayed and played a hot georgia team. like i said o-line is to blame with all those shots he was taking back there and no blocking whatsoever. we are a lot better team than what showed last night even if we did play a weak schedule. but cant blame that no one wants to play hawaii anymore.

    michigan state backed out this year, michigan turned us down to play at michigan, texas backed out a few years ago, even purdue didnt want a part with us even though they actually manned up and played us last year. the list goes on and will go on as long as june is the coach here and we have a potent offense.
    LOL!
    That's because those teams did not want a weaker schedule.
    why dont you tell your ad to schedule us and will see if ohio state is man enough to play us cuz im more than confident that we can beat osu. the little ten aint got nothing on the sec esp since we beat a number of little ten teams already.
    LMAO!
    Precious!


    Whose we?
    Last time I checked, Hawaii was in the WAC.
    Oh....I see.
    You are jumping on the SEC bandwagon now.
    LOL!

    And who did the SEC beat in the Big 10 in Bowl games?
    TN beat Wisc and Mich beat Florida?


    So I am not really sure what you are referring to.
    Just face it, Hawaii is descent but they simply cannot compete vs big schools (as if the GA game was not a clear indication).


    LOL...beat OSU.



    [/quote]

    we bein hawaii. yep were in the wac and if were were in a bcs conference i guarantee you we would have a higher recruiting budget than the lame 50,000 dollar a year budget we have which means better recruiting. all these non bcs teams get the leftovers, the two and three star recruits, so
    of course we are going to get outmatched by a lot of the elite teams which come from the sec. a lot of them are four and five star recruits, best talent comes from there too that
    why i give them mad propz.

    get this 11 of the 12 teams from the sec made a bowl game with the lone team being vanderbilt if im not mistaken being the only team to not make a bowl game. the sec is the best conference hand down, and no im not jumping on their bandwagon, just stating facts and givin them props.

    seriously and i dont hate osu other than the fact that they made me lose money against florida last year > i think you can add osu to that list in a rout by lsu. if the sec faced the big ten head to head, i think the sec would dominate big time. florida not good this year lost to michigan cuz they had no d. but last year they really showed how dominant they usually are against the likes of the best big ten team.

    oh and believe me we can compete with the best but if we had an o-line that could block, the game would have been a lot closer. 6 turnovers off of pressure is hard to overcome. over the past few years we beat michigan state, arizona state, alabama, purdue, northwestern, washington, and some other schools. we just got beat by an elite sec team that could have been playing in the title game.

    do you honestly think osu could beat georiga? i think georgia would win while controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
    [/quote]

    It's really silly to play the "if" game.
    If OSU had a bteer QB we do this and that.
    Hawaii has who they have and that's it.
    I understand that they have a harder time recruiting because of location and the best recruits go to USC, UCLa, etc.

    I do not know what spinning this to GA beating OSU has to do with Hawaii getting stomped.
    GA could beat OSU, sure.
    But OSU would not get beat as bad as Hawaii did and OSU has a good Defense, the best in college.
    We were not even really talking about the Big 10 vs the SEC, this is about Hawaii.

    Hawaii played good all year.
    They beat the teams they had to.
    They just cannot compete with big schools...that's all.
    [/quote]

    ya good points but to say we cannot compete with the big schools is false. hawaii had a bad day offensively esp with our o-line and they were never good to begin with when the season started ever since we lost our 3 guys on our o-line last year to the nfl. we have faced tough competition in the recent past and have hung with them or beat them. but to use the georgia game by itself as a measuring stick is totally moot point. you cant judge a team by just one game. that just like judging brennan one game in which he had absolutely no time to throw the ball. give him a few more seconds and he can light up anyone.

    thats like saying if the patriots lose in the playoffs, they must be a horrible team cuz they went undefeated and played a bunch of weak teams. same anology.
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