Oh but you have offended me Singer.
I kind of feel after 10 pages of posts I have to come in here and defend myself.
First off, about the â€œThis article or this topic has already been postedâ€. Prophet & I chatted several times yesterday as well. It by no means, either by myself or by Prophet is intended to bash or bitchslap any newbie or any other member because it was duplicated. Itâ€™s merely a reminder to say â€œHey, please look for existing articles/topics before you start a new threadâ€. It also always then has a link to the original thread, where I hope they or anyone reading it, posts further comments to that topic before a mod either locks or merges it.
For newbs I fully understand they havenâ€™t found their way around the site yet & I have restricted myself to using it only when I know that member has been around long enough. But many of us donâ€™t know how to use the tools to the best advantage either. Look at how hard of a time some of us old timers had finding our way around the new site.
Perhaps there is a more tactful way of doing it or of pointing them in the right direction. I know when the pooh hit the fan the other day, I felt like hitting the â€œdelete accountâ€ myself.
We also donâ€™t know if anyone is PMing the newbs or showing them how to do it correctly especially when you see them repeating the same mistakes. Letting them know something has already been posted is just that. Hopefully, they start looking around after that. I know when I started and I was the recipient of a few Bill Murrayâ€™s or a nasty gram (LOL) from Ultra or Del, I started looking.
The mods do a great job of catching most of them, but Iâ€™ve seen them slip thru the cracks or not be caught until after several pages have been posted. Is this also the best use of the mods time?
There are also members who look at the top 10 & only the top 10 & if they donâ€™t see it they start a new thread. Since the inception of the new site, many threads that you had to search for are among the top 10.
A few months ago, & I saw it mentioned on an earlier page, I suggested two top 10 lists. One for football & Vikings related topics & one for everything else. It will keep the Vikings/football topics up in the top 10 & cut down on duplicate threads. I have read mention of members being able to customize a single top 10 it, but I donâ€™t know if thatâ€™s the answer.
At any given time there are usually, if not more, lurkers on line looking at the top 10 who arenâ€™t looking at a top 10 list & others who wonâ€™t ever change theirs & those who post mostly in the clubhouse anyways.
I would never get rid of the clubhouse or two beers forums as I feel those are necessary & helps make this a better place to be. We all need a little humor in our lives & just how much can we rehash the game & team from Sunday to Sunday.
Another reason for two top 10â€™s is that the football related articles/topics get buried to quickly. I am on here at 5:00 AM most mornings & posting the latest that hasnâ€™t been posted yet. Del is usually on here then always replying to them along with some other usual. But by the time some of the younger members get on, the non-football topics rise quickly to the top. On weekends, you can gol 'darnit near set your watch to it, come 11:00AM CST. By no means am I insinuating we donâ€™t have great young posters out there, because we do. Iâ€™m just voicing my observations. Many of them know a hell of a lot more of the intracies of football than I do. But that doesnâ€™t mean their opinion or mine is any less valuable to this site.
2ndly, Cojo mentioned articles. Whole story or not? Iâ€™ve do it both ways. I have a pretty good feel, at least I think I do, so correct me if Iâ€™m wrong, for what can & what shouldnâ€™t be posted in full. The major reason I post full articles is that there are some that require you to register & log in to read them & some people donâ€™t want to go thru that trouble or give out their e-mail address. I have been asked on several occasions to post the entire article so they wouldnâ€™t have to register. If I can, I oblige, if I canâ€™t, Iâ€™ll let them know that also.
3rdly, IMO the search & advanced search features should be more visible on the forum page. Perhaps separated out & in the upper left or right corner like a majority of websites have. You shouldnâ€™t have to use 3 clicks to get to the Advanced Search feature. Without looking, how many of you HOFâ€™s know an advanced search feature is there, where it is & how to use it?
I believe Cajun has mentioned the â€œit only takes two clicks to get to the Viking forumâ€ (or any other forum) to look for new topics. But then you have to search those pages for the new topics. They are listed in order by â€œthe most recently posted inâ€ & not â€œthe most recentâ€, so a new thread to them may be found on page 3. Again, a lot of people donâ€™t go thru that effort & look at the top 10.
You donâ€™t have to go thru any of that to find the new topics, they are just one click away. I showed the powerful feature last week to MNJamie, I believe & I rely on it more than the top 10 or any other of the search features or forums. It has to be set up in â€œYour Accountâ€, but I feel it is so beneficial, it should be turned on by default.
Below is a picture of what Iâ€™m talking about & Iâ€™m sure many people havenâ€™t discovered it yet, but I have found it to be the most useful tool on here & Iâ€™m on here a hell of a lot.
The top line to click, â€œShow unread posts since last visitâ€ gives you a list of every new thread started that either you havenâ€™t seen yet or havenâ€™t posted in yet. Once you click on one of the threads there & read it & then click on â€œShow unread posts since last visitâ€ again, it will no longer be there, until someone else posts a reply. Once I get down to the topics Iâ€™m not interested in I simply select â€œMark all topics as readâ€ & the remainder will be purged from the list.
The 2nd line to click â€œShow new replies to your postsâ€ works the same way as the first one, except the only threads listed there are threads youâ€™ve posted in that have received a new reply.
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Some instructions or tutorials to these tools & how to use them would be beneficial to members new & old if they take the time to learn them instead of stumbling onto them like I have.
Thatâ€™s my dollar-two cents worth & I hope I have offended anyone for voicing my opinion or by giving them a notice to anyone about any duplicate threads. If I have, I apologize.