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    Re: Utah only state to allow guns at college

    i look at this and dont know whether to agree or disagree with it... i has its benefits but has its risk too soo idk
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    Re: Utah only state to allow guns at college

    the risks are way worse than the benefits tho

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    Re: Utah only state to allow guns at college

    "faninphx" wrote:
    "michaelmazid" wrote:
    "MensaTice" wrote:
    good for them.
    If anyone goes on a shooting rampage, hopefully someone can take the guy out before he gets to do it himself.
    but what if one of the guys with the conceled weapon license goes on a shooting spree?
    Then someone else who has a gun will take care of him.
    When you disarm law-abiding citizens then only the criminals will have guns.
    The definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law.
    Did you know that all of the worst shooting sprees (ie VT, Columbine, Post Office etc) were all in places where guns were not permited.

    Did you know that more Americans have died from gunfire in the States in 1965 than
    all of the American war casualties from the 20th century? Did you know that last year alone, over 400 children were murdered with guns? These ridiculously high numbers don't occur in any non war-zone in the world except for in the States. Which just so happens to be the country with the slackest gun laws.

    And your point about the shooting sprees happening at places where guns aren't allowed: very true. And this is the very reason why, despite the obvious negative publicity from shootings, schools are one of the safest possible places you can be in society.

    What people don't realize is that, while it would obviously have been great if someone had been able to preemptively shoot the killer before he did so much damage, letting everyone have guns for defense leads to many many more problems. ie. Letting a whole bunch of students have guns for defense means that most of these students will bring said guns to the bar with them. Fight breaks out over the best football team, and boom.

    The simple fact is that guns bought for the purpose of defense are 14 times more likely to be used either on someone within a person's household/themselves than on an intruder/attacker.

    In Canada, we banned automatic weapons/handguns and restricted all firearm purchases, and gun violence has been dropping off significantly every year since. It's the exact opposite trend in the States. Gun violence has been increasing the last few years, and it's increasing even faster this year.

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    Re: Utah only state to allow guns at college

    good post canadian vikes fan...

    i noticed the kid they had pictured with the 9mm had one of those tshirts mocking police officers
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    A: I m 37, number one. I took my family to Perkins a couple of days ago, and they didn t hand me a senior citizens discount card, so I feel pretty good.
    (Brad Johnson at an interview before the start of the season)

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    Re: Utah only state to allow guns at college

    "canadian_vikes_fan" wrote:
    "faninphx" wrote:
    "michaelmazid" wrote:
    "MensaTice" wrote:
    good for them.
    If anyone goes on a shooting rampage, hopefully someone can take the guy out before he gets to do it himself.
    but what if one of the guys with the conceled weapon license goes on a shooting spree?
    Then someone else who has a gun will take care of him.
    When you disarm law-abiding citizens then only the criminals will have guns.
    The definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law.
    Did you know that all of the worst shooting sprees (ie VT, Columbine, Post Office etc) were all in places where guns were not permited.

    Did you know that more Americans have died from gunfire in the States in 1965 than
    all of the American war casualties from the 20th century? Did you know that last year alone, over 400 children were murdered with guns? These ridiculously high numbers don't occur in any non war-zone in the world except for in the States. Which just so happens to be the country with the slackest gun laws.

    And your point about the shooting sprees happening at places where guns aren't allowed: very true. And this is the very reason why, despite the obvious negative publicity from shootings, schools are one of the safest possible places you can be in society.

    What people don't realize is that, while it would obviously have been great if someone had been able to preemptively shoot the killer before he did so much damage, letting everyone have guns for defense leads to many many more problems. ie. Letting a whole bunch of students have guns for defense means that most of these students will bring said guns to the bar with them. Fight breaks out over the best football team, and boom.

    The simple fact is that guns bought for the purpose of defense are 14 times more likely to be used either on someone within a person's household/themselves than on an intruder/attacker.

    In Canada, we banned automatic weapons/handguns and restricted all firearm purchases, and gun violence has been dropping off significantly every year since. It's the exact opposite trend in the States. Gun violence has been increasing the last few years, and it's increasing even faster this year.
    I am with you candian viking fan

    and as for his point that all the shooting happen where there are not guns allowed, what the hell does that mean?
    guns are not allowed anywhere so that point makes no sense. ok what if it was not at school and it was at a mall?
    are we allowed to take guns to the mall? NO

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    Re: Utah only state to allow guns at college

    "canadian_vikes_fan" wrote:
    "faninphx" wrote:
    "michaelmazid" wrote:
    "MensaTice" wrote:
    good for them.
    If anyone goes on a shooting rampage, hopefully someone can take the guy out before he gets to do it himself.
    but what if one of the guys with the conceled weapon license goes on a shooting spree?
    Then someone else who has a gun will take care of him.
    When you disarm law-abiding citizens then only the criminals will have guns.
    The definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law.
    Did you know that all of the worst shooting sprees (ie VT, Columbine, Post Office etc) were all in places where guns were not permited.

    Did you know that more Americans have died from gunfire in the States in 1965 than
    all of the American war casualties from the 20th century? Did you know that last year alone, over 400 children were murdered with guns? These ridiculously high numbers don't occur in any non war-zone in the world except for in the States. Which just so happens to be the country with the slackest gun laws.

    And your point about the shooting sprees happening at places where guns aren't allowed: very true. And this is the very reason why, despite the obvious negative publicity from shootings, schools are one of the safest possible places you can be in society.

    What people don't realize is that, while it would obviously have been great if someone had been able to preemptively shoot the killer before he did so much damage, letting everyone have guns for defense leads to many many more problems. ie. Letting a whole bunch of students have guns for defense means that most of these students will bring said guns to the bar with them. Fight breaks out over the best football team, and boom.

    The simple fact is that guns bought for the purpose of defense are 14 times more likely to be used either on someone within a person's household/themselves than on an intruder/attacker.

    In Canada, we banned automatic weapons/handguns and restricted all firearm purchases, and gun violence has been dropping off significantly every year since. It's the exact opposite trend in the States. Gun violence has been increasing the last few years, and it's increasing even faster this year.
    Don't waste your time Canadian_vikes_fan, Americans like to be different from rest of the world, so statistics dont apply to them, and oh by the way can someone lock this thread.

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    Re: Utah only state to allow guns at college

    "vikingTurf" wrote:
    "canadian_vikes_fan" wrote:
    "faninphx" wrote:
    "michaelmazid" wrote:
    "MensaTice" wrote:
    good for them.
    If anyone goes on a shooting rampage, hopefully someone can take the guy out before he gets to do it himself.
    but what if one of the guys with the conceled weapon license goes on a shooting spree?
    Then someone else who has a gun will take care of him.
    When you disarm law-abiding citizens then only the criminals will have guns.
    The definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law.
    Did you know that all of the worst shooting sprees (ie VT, Columbine, Post Office etc) were all in places where guns were not permited.

    Did you know that more Americans have died from gunfire in the States in 1965 than
    all of the American war casualties from the 20th century? Did you know that last year alone, over 400 children were murdered with guns? These ridiculously high numbers don't occur in any non war-zone in the world except for in the States. Which just so happens to be the country with the slackest gun laws.

    And your point about the shooting sprees happening at places where guns aren't allowed: very true. And this is the very reason why, despite the obvious negative publicity from shootings, schools are one of the safest possible places you can be in society.

    What people don't realize is that, while it would obviously have been great if someone had been able to preemptively shoot the killer before he did so much damage, letting everyone have guns for defense leads to many many more problems. ie. Letting a whole bunch of students have guns for defense means that most of these students will bring said guns to the bar with them. Fight breaks out over the best football team, and boom.

    The simple fact is that guns bought for the purpose of defense are 14 times more likely to be used either on someone within a person's household/themselves than on an intruder/attacker.

    In Canada, we banned automatic weapons/handguns and restricted all firearm purchases, and gun violence has been dropping off significantly every year since. It's the exact opposite trend in the States. Gun violence has been increasing the last few years, and it's increasing even faster this year.
    Don't waste your time Canadian_vikes_fan, Americans like to be different from rest of the world, so statistics dont apply to them, and oh by the way can someone lock this thread.
    Oh, and by the way, we have free speech here.

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    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:


    Oh, and by the way, we have free speech here.
    I'm not a mod but I'm sure they'd disagree with this comment.
    I fully expect this thing to be locked shortly.

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    Re: Utah only state to allow guns at college

    "MensaTice" wrote:
    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:


    Oh, and by the way, we have free speech here.
    I'm not a mod but I'm sure they'd disagree with this comment.
    I fully expect this thing to be locked shortly.
    Actually, I was refering to the United States.

    But we have a pretty long leash here as well.

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    Re: Utah only state to allow guns at college

    "michaelmazid" wrote:
    "canadian_vikes_fan" wrote:
    "faninphx" wrote:
    "michaelmazid" wrote:
    "MensaTice" wrote:
    good for them.
    If anyone goes on a shooting rampage, hopefully someone can take the guy out before he gets to do it himself.
    but what if one of the guys with the conceled weapon license goes on a shooting spree?
    Then someone else who has a gun will take care of him.
    When you disarm law-abiding citizens then only the criminals will have guns.
    The definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law.
    Did you know that all of the worst shooting sprees (ie VT, Columbine, Post Office etc) were all in places where guns were not permited.

    Did you know that more Americans have died from gunfire in the States in 1965 than
    all of the American war casualties from the 20th century? Did you know that last year alone, over 400 children were murdered with guns? These ridiculously high numbers don't occur in any non war-zone in the world except for in the States. Which just so happens to be the country with the slackest gun laws.

    And your point about the shooting sprees happening at places where guns aren't allowed: very true. And this is the very reason why, despite the obvious negative publicity from shootings, schools are one of the safest possible places you can be in society.

    What people don't realize is that, while it would obviously have been great if someone had been able to preemptively shoot the killer before he did so much damage, letting everyone have guns for defense leads to many many more problems. ie. Letting a whole bunch of students have guns for defense means that most of these students will bring said guns to the bar with them. Fight breaks out over the best football team, and boom.

    The simple fact is that guns bought for the purpose of defense are 14 times more likely to be used either on someone within a person's household/themselves than on an intruder/attacker.

    In Canada, we banned automatic weapons/handguns and restricted all firearm purchases, and gun violence has been dropping off significantly every year since. It's the exact opposite trend in the States. Gun violence has been increasing the last few years, and it's increasing even faster this year.
    I am with you candian viking fan

    and as for his point that all the shooting happen where there are not guns allowed, what the hell does that mean?
    guns are not allowed anywhere so that point makes no sense. ok what if it was not at school and it was at a mall?
    are we allowed to take guns to the mall? NO
    We ARE allowed to take guns anywhere.
    The 2nd Amendment says so.
    There is a very important reason why the founding fathers put that amendment 2nd.
    History is filled with unarmed people being persecuted by an armed goverment and our FF didn't want the same thing to happen to us.
    They were very right to do this because in the 20th century alone over ONE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE have been murdered by their own goverment AFTER they were disarmed.
    I am not making this up or exagerating just think about it: Hiter, Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim Jong IL and the many dictators in African countries all murdered their citizens after disarming them.
    And for my comment about shootings taking place in places where guns are banned, the point is simple: there will always be people who want to kill other people (the concept has been around a lot longer than guns), when you take away their weapons it leaves them defenseless not safer.
    And banning guns does not make the area gun-free.
    And Canadian_vikes _fan, I must disagree with you.
    You seem to overlook the fact that Canada has far greater violent crimes (rape, burglary, breaking and entering, etc) than the US.
    The crime rate in America hit an 18-year low in 2006 while the crime rate in Canada is quite high.
    Think about it, if you were to rob a house would you rob the house of an armed man or an unarmed man?

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