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    Re: Sigs for Military

    Nobody who's been "there" ever wants to talk about war.
    Those of us who have never been will probably never fully understand.

    My uncle was in 'Nam and keeps very quiet (about war anyways, not about anything else in life
    ;D).
    The only story he's ever told was that of mowing down a heard of deer (or some animal) from the gunner seat in the chopper.
    He said he felt terrible afterwards...and that was only animals.

    I was ice fishing with a young man who recently returned from Iraq.
    He was funny and outgoing until we asked him what it was like fighting over in Iraq.
    His entire demeanor changed instantly and he completely shut himself down and stared at the floor for the next 30 minutes.
    I don't know what that boy saw, did, or lived through but it had to have been horrible.
    I'll never forget that evening on the lake.

    God bless those that serve and have served!
    Thank you!

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    I had a really close buddy that would not say anything about Somalia.
    He did open up to a few of us and he was involved in some bad stuff.

    I do not blame them for not talking about that stuff.

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    I think that opening up about it might help as long as you're ready for it.

    I had someone I consider a friend opening up and telling one of his 'Nam stories on our Packer forum. I think the mix of veterans and regular people really showed him that's nothing wrong with it.

    That said, I don't know what kind of stuff you guys have seen or done. I haven't been close to a war situation in my lifetime. I'm just throwing out what I think. Call me out if you think it's ignorant.

    Like Bloody said, those of us who haven't been in that situation will never fully understand. And like Ultra said, I don't blame anyone for not talking about it either.

    Again, thanks for those who served in any army for our western civilization.
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    That's one hell of an article, Fargo. Little hard to read for a foreigner with no army experience, but it was worth it. It's nearly unreal. I really don't know what to say.

    Although it'd be the least of your worries, those STABO rigs look and sound really uncomfortable.
    "You can look pretty smart if you have a knack for planning ahead. That's Ted. The Packers are in good hands." - Ron Wolf


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    War is the zenith of mans inhumanity toward his fellow man. There's no other way I can describe it.
    It is truly the worlds equivalent of biblical hell.

    The same government that conscribes its citizens to fight wars, place restrictions on how those wars are to be conducted.

    Fuck that. It was personal servival. The old west so to speak. Cover your own ass and your buddies. There are no superior officers unless they are there with you.
    We were in the field. We made our own rules of survival. That is why I loved special forces.

    I was lucky to have it pretty easy over there.
    But there were 2 or 3 times I should have died and didn't.

    I think God had a plan for me.

    Those who perished were all young and had an incomplete life.

    I have to remember to thank those people in my prayers every time my children and grandchild are eating at my table.

    Sometimes my children look at me a little funny when I say the Thanksgiving grace.

    They don't know the real price of freedom.I pray they never find out. But I can never forget.
    And you shouldn't either.

    BTW This is about a very personal experience. I will say no more, except.
    I love my country and all those who serve her.
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    I appreciate all of you who served (or are serving).
    I wish that I could have retired (other than medically) from the service.
    Hang in there and know that we support y'all!
    Its better to lose the first game than the last one.

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    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "STCLOUDSAYSGOVIKES" wrote:
    With the demo ones being limited, i couldn't create one. There were no options for me, under navy. My ribbons were modest at best. I'd have to look at my DD-214 for mine, beyond shellback and meritorious service.
    I did mine a long time ago.
    I tried to make a new one, but could not.

    Waiting to see what Marr and Bkfldviking did.

    Is there an award for not being a Pollywog?


    Hell, people do not need medals or ribbons to show their accomplishments.
    You served, that's all that matters?


    I would like to see what "Rangers" would look like.
    A Tab, Scroll and a mountain of skulls from my enemies.

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    "Ranger" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "STCLOUDSAYSGOVIKES" wrote:
    With the demo ones being limited, i couldn't create one. There were no options for me, under navy. My ribbons were modest at best. I'd have to look at my DD-214 for mine, beyond shellback and meritorious service.
    I did mine a long time ago.
    I tried to make a new one, but could not.

    Waiting to see what Marr and Bkfldviking did.

    Is there an award for not being a Pollywog?


    Hell, people do not need medals or ribbons to show their accomplishments.
    You served, that's all that matters?


    I would like to see what "Rangers" would look like.
    A Tab, Scroll and a mountain of skulls from my enemies.
    LOL!

    "The tab is a school....the Scroll is a way of life!"


    I saw a Ranger Bat PFC tell this to a Capt. that just went to Ranger school.

    Capt. had no reply for that!

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    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "Ranger" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "STCLOUDSAYSGOVIKES" wrote:
    With the demo ones being limited, i couldn't create one. There were no options for me, under navy. My ribbons were modest at best. I'd have to look at my DD-214 for mine, beyond shellback and meritorious service.
    I did mine a long time ago.
    I tried to make a new one, but could not.

    Waiting to see what Marr and Bkfldviking did.

    Is there an award for not being a Pollywog?


    Hell, people do not need medals or ribbons to show their accomplishments.
    You served, that's all that matters?


    I would like to see what "Rangers" would look like.
    A Tab, Scroll and a mountain of skulls from my enemies.
    LOL!

    "The tab is a school....the Scroll is a way of life!"


    I saw a Ranger Bat PFC tell this to a Capt. that just went to Ranger school.

    Capt. had no reply for that!
    Haha, yeah, that's the saying.
    Ranger School sucked enough to give credit to anybody who completed it, though.

    Most of the vets not talking about war isn't because we're so traumatized or whatever, but because you get tired to having to explain the situation over and over again to people who probably wont "get it", as cliche as that sounds.


    It's hard to see civilians laugh as hard as your buddies when you explain about finding a human hand on the ground, and picking it up to "high five" your buddies.

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    Re: Sigs for Military

    "Ranger" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "Ranger" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "STCLOUDSAYSGOVIKES" wrote:
    With the demo ones being limited, i couldn't create one. There were no options for me, under navy. My ribbons were modest at best. I'd have to look at my DD-214 for mine, beyond shellback and meritorious service.
    I did mine a long time ago.
    I tried to make a new one, but could not.

    Waiting to see what Marr and Bkfldviking did.

    Is there an award for not being a Pollywog?


    Hell, people do not need medals or ribbons to show their accomplishments.
    You served, that's all that matters?


    I would like to see what "Rangers" would look like.
    A Tab, Scroll and a mountain of skulls from my enemies.
    LOL!

    "The tab is a school....the Scroll is a way of life!"


    I saw a Ranger Bat PFC tell this to a Capt. that just went to Ranger school.

    Capt. had no reply for that!
    Haha, yeah, that's the saying.
    Ranger School sucked enough to give credit to anybody who completed it, though.

    Most of the vets not talking about war isn't because we're so traumatized or whatever, but because you get tired to having to explain the situation over and over again to people who probably wont "get it", as cliche as that sounds.


    It's hard to see civilians laugh as hard as your buddies when you explain about finding a human hand on the ground, and picking it up to "high five" your buddies.
    LOL!


    I could imagine the school is harder than hell.
    A lot conventional Infantry "butter bars" just think they are the shit as well just having done the school.
    Give me an Sergeant Ranger leading the was any day of the year!

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