I see that Pat Williams is a starter at DT, and I knew Williams from his Buffalo days.
Williams doesn't particularly scare me.
You should rethink that statement.
PAt Williams is probably top 3 in the league for run stopping.
He takes up so much room and is a beast.
That's a fact!
How is that a fact?
Top 3 in the league in run-stopping based on what?
As I said, I saw Williams play quite a bit over the past few years.
He played on a good/not great Buffalo D line.
The Patriots had no problem running right through them with...uh...Antowain Smith.
So, I'm sorry, but I'm still not especially asceered of Pat Williams.
Then again, I don't personally have to run against him.
That doesn't mean that I'm denigrating the overall D line.
What exactly constitutes a good run stuffing DT for you?
In case you didnt know, the Vikings are currently ranked 2nd in the NFL in rushing defense, which is anchored by Pat Williams.
Allright, so Pat isnt considered a top run stuffing in your book.
Thats fine, but back it up.
List 5 DTs that are better run stuffers- I'll get u started.
My original argument about Pat Williams had nothing to do with his identity as a "run stuffer."
It's on the general quality of his play as a lineman.
And yes, I've heard many times that the Vikings are currently ranked 2nd in the NFL in rushing defense.
My point wasn't about your overall line.
It was about Pat Williams, specifically.
When Williams went to Minnesota from Buffalo, it's not as if Patriots fans breathed a collective sigh of relief and said, "Whew...thank GOD we don't have to face PAT WILLIAMS Anymore!!!
Oh, the horror!
We could never handle playing against Williams!!!"
At least not that I recall.
This said, you asked me for some names of DTs that I think are better run stuffers.
Sorry, but I'll have to give names of DTs I think are just flat out BETTER than Williams.
Not necessarily in order, I'd go with...
Vince Wilfork (New England)
Richard Seymour (New England).
(Some think of Seymour as an end, but he plays mostly in the 3-4, so he's really an interior lineman.)
Tommie Harris (Chicago)
Shaun Rogers (Detroit)
Jamal Williams (San Diego)
Marcus Stroud (Jacksonville)
Please remember this as you fawn all over Williams:
the Pats' young DTs have a history of playing (and succeeding) at a much higher level of competition than Williams has ever played at.
More to the point, a number of our O-Linemen have also played (and succeeded) at far higher levels than Williams.
Our Center, Dan Koppen, our LT (Matt Light) and Stephen Neal, Guard, were all key parts of the Patriots championship seasons.
By the way, these players are also a good deal younger than Pat Williams.
So, pardon me if I expect that it's unlikely that they'll be intimidated or overwhelmed by the
competition and that they'll probably be able to acquit themselves admirably.
This isn't to say the Pats will win.
But to imagine that they'll be manhandled by the Vikings far superior forces is maybe a bit of wishful thinking.
While I'll certainly give you that it should be a tough, competitive game, and I'm not making any ridiculous predictions, please forgive me if I don't fall all over myself over Pat Williams.