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    Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?

    [size=13pt]Minnesota Vikings: Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?[/size]

    by Andy Rarick (Analyst)
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    With players such as Chestor Taylor, Ray Edwards, and Tarvaris Jackson entering contract years, it's hard to believe that the Vikings will be able to keep any combination of them....

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    Re: Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?

    I would be a fan of keeping CT and TJ, Ray IMO is expendable.
    in two seasons time, Udeze should be back, so might be back on the bench.
    I'd rather get a real LDE in there anyway.

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    Re: Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?

    Wow... who's this Yutz?

    I've never seen anything said by Taylor indicating he wants to be the lead dog for a football team and frankly at his age, I don't see it happening.
    He's been in the league for close to 8 years now?
    With the number of snaps he gets and the amount he gets the ball on 3rd down here, I'm not sure he'll find a better gig.

    Also, I've yet to read that TJ has asked to be traded if Favre signs... all I've read is someone at ESPN presuming he'd request a trade if the signing occured.
    Of course we all know how reliable ESPN is in reporting.
    Frankly, TJ hasn't shown enough to be gauranteed a starting gig anywhere else in the NFL.
    He may compete for a starting role somewhere but he'd also compete for it here after Favre's 1 or 2 years.
    I don't know that he'd believe he'd have a better shot at winning it anywhere else.

    And Edwards?
    I know Defensive Ends are a commodity, but he hasn't shown much of anything to demand much money in free agency.
    He had a golden opportunity last year to increase his value playing next to the three probowl linemen he was, he failed to capitalize and honestly will be fighting to maintain his starting role this year.

    I believe the Vikings could easily keep all 3 players if they wanted to.
    They may cut Edwards loose simply due to too many players at that position.
    I see them bringing Chester and TJ back.
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    Re: Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?

    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    Wow... who's this Yutz?

    I've never seen anything said by Taylor indicating he wants to be the lead dog for a football team and frankly at his age, I don't see it happening.
    He's been in the league for close to 8 years now?
    With the number of snaps he gets and the amount he gets the ball on 3rd down here, I'm not sure he'll find a better gig.

    Also, I've yet to read that TJ has asked to be traded if Favre signs... all I've read is someone at ESPN presuming he'd request a trade if the signing occured.
    Of course we all know how reliable ESPN is in reporting.
    Frankly, TJ hasn't shown enough to be gauranteed a starting gig anywhere else in the NFL.
    He may compete for a starting role somewhere but he'd also compete for it here after Favre's 1 or 2 years.
    I don't know that he'd believe he'd have a better shot at winning it anywhere else.

    And Edwards?
    I know Defensive Ends are a commodity, but he hasn't shown much of anything to demand much money in free agency.
    He had a golden opportunity last year to increase his value playing next to the three probowl linemen he was, he failed to capitalize and honestly will be fighting to maintain his starting role this year.

    I believe the Vikings could easily keep all 3 players if they wanted to.
    They may cut Edwards loose simply due to too many players at that position.
    I see them bringing Chester and TJ back.
    Totally agree although I think Chester will ask for the trade. I think he thinks he is a starting player in 20+ teams in the league and he will always be 2nd to AP.

    Tjack knows even if lnad comes it's short term I can't see him signing for more than a year and he has a year to learn and compete. If in a year the FO go looking for another FA QB then the writings on the wall and he will go and they will let him.
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    Re: Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?

    "Mark_The_Viking" wrote:
    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    Wow... who's this Yutz?

    I've never seen anything said by Taylor indicating he wants to be the lead dog for a football team and frankly at his age, I don't see it happening.
    He's been in the league for close to 8 years now?
    With the number of snaps he gets and the amount he gets the ball on 3rd down here, I'm not sure he'll find a better gig.

    Also, I've yet to read that TJ has asked to be traded if Favre signs... all I've read is someone at ESPN presuming he'd request a trade if the signing occured.
    Of course we all know how reliable ESPN is in reporting.
    Frankly, TJ hasn't shown enough to be gauranteed a starting gig anywhere else in the NFL.
    He may compete for a starting role somewhere but he'd also compete for it here after Favre's 1 or 2 years.
    I don't know that he'd believe he'd have a better shot at winning it anywhere else.

    And Edwards?
    I know Defensive Ends are a commodity, but he hasn't shown much of anything to demand much money in free agency.
    He had a golden opportunity last year to increase his value playing next to the three probowl linemen he was, he failed to capitalize and honestly will be fighting to maintain his starting role this year.

    I believe the Vikings could easily keep all 3 players if they wanted to.
    They may cut Edwards loose simply due to too many players at that position.
    I see them bringing Chester and TJ back.
    Totally agree although I think Chester will ask for the trade. I think he thinks he is a starting player in 20+ teams in the league and he will always be 2nd to AP.

    Tjack knows even if lnad comes it's short term I can't see him signing for more than a year and he has a year to learn and compete. If in a year the FO go looking for another FA QB then the writings on the wall and he will go and they will let him.

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    Re: Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?

    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    Wow... who's this Yutz?

    I've never seen anything said by Taylor indicating he wants to be the lead dog for a football team and frankly at his age, I don't see it happening.
    He's been in the league for close to 8 years now?
    With the number of snaps he gets and the amount he gets the ball on 3rd down here, I'm not sure he'll find a better gig.

    Also, I've yet to read that TJ has asked to be traded if Favre signs... all I've read is someone at ESPN presuming he'd request a trade if the signing occured.
    Of course we all know how reliable ESPN is in reporting.
    Frankly, TJ hasn't shown enough to be gauranteed a starting gig anywhere else in the NFL.
    He may compete for a starting role somewhere but he'd also compete for it here after Favre's 1 or 2 years.
    I don't know that he'd believe he'd have a better shot at winning it anywhere else.

    And Edwards?
    I know Defensive Ends are a commodity, but he hasn't shown much of anything to demand much money in free agency.
    He had a golden opportunity last year to increase his value playing next to the three probowl linemen he was, he failed to capitalize and honestly will be fighting to maintain his starting role this year.

    I believe the Vikings could easily keep all 3 players if they wanted to.
    They may cut Edwards loose simply due to too many players at that position.
    I see them bringing Chester and TJ back.
    Good post...

    Taylor is a capable starter as we all know but it's another position where age catches up with you and he may not be guaranteed to get a majority of carries anywhere next year. Plus I think we'll pay him fairly.

    Jackson is a tough call. I can see why they'd want to keep him...most can agree he may be a good starter and is a good back up and he's cheap right now. Trading him for a low pick only potentially benefits T-Jack himself and maybe another team but not the Vikings. I think I bought into Caine's no leverage thing.

    I don't think we'll trade Ray but I bet we don't re-sign him either.


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    Re: Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?

    Vike are primed for a SB run (Favre or not), they would be foolish to consider getting rid of any players unless they could add a better player this year as a needed spot (thus no draft picks), i.e. CT and TJ for a significant upgrade a CB/Safety.
    Not going to happen.

    That said if Favre does sign, the Vikes will have too many QB's.
    Thus, someone is going to have to go.
    IMO it will depend on TC/preseason performance and their value.

    CT, although older, hasn't a lot of mileage on him.
    He could definitely contribute as a starter on other teams, thus he will wait till FA next year.

    RE, I think the Vikes have other players that could fill in without a lot of decline, unless RE gets the sack record like he predicted last year.
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    Re: Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?

    I always love the Chester man-love in these parts.
    Don't get me wrong ... I love Chester Taylor and think he is a very valuable asset to our team, but the people who act like he would command solid return in a trade are delusional.
    He is a running back and running backs of his caliber are pretty much a dime a dozen.
    Everyone likes to name all the places he would "start," but in all honesty almost anywhere he goes the best he could hope for is to split time. He simply is not a top tier running back like Adrian Peterson, Michael Turner, LaDanian Tomlinson, etc. Plus he is 30 years old.
    I think Chester would be an amazing fit somewhere like New England, but would still be splitting time with Maroney of course.
    As for Edwards ... not much value there either.
    I think we could probably get something like a third round pick for T-Jack ... but that is also being optimistic.
    I think Chester is going to be very disappointed next season when he moves into free agency and looks for a starting gig as there simply will not be many out there.

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    Re: Would the Contract-Year Players Be Worth Trading?

    "midgensa" wrote:
    I always love the Chester man-love in these parts.
    Don't get me wrong ... I love Chester Taylor and think he is a very valuable asset to our team, but the people who act like he would command solid return in a trade are delusional.
    He is a running back and running backs of his caliber are pretty much a dime a dozen.
    Everyone likes to name all the places he would "start," but in all honesty almost anywhere he goes the best he could hope for is to split time. He simply is not a top tier running back like Adrian Peterson, Michael Turner, LaDanian Tomlinson, etc. Plus he is 30 years old.
    I think Chester would be an amazing fit somewhere like New England, but would still be splitting time with Maroney of course.
    As for Edwards ... not much value there either.
    I think we could probably get something like a third round pick for T-Jack ... but that is also being optimistic.
    I think Chester is going to be very disappointed next season when he moves into free agency and looks for a starting gig as there simply will not be many out there.
    I agree.. if we traded Chester, what would we get, a third at most?
    RB is one of the easiest positions in the league to have some rookie come in and contribute right away.
    I'd say he's worth more to us to keep, than anything we'd get in a trade.

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    Chester will stay

    Jackson Will say

    Ray will stay

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