Williamson believes drops are behind him

**Purple Floyd** · 09-08-2007, 11:27 AM

"snowinapril" wrote:

He made the final cuts so that says something about his worth in comparison to the guys we let go.
If he was worth less than what we are paying him in comparison to the other guys making less, I think we would have let him go.

But, just because we kept him and the fact that he has optimism doesn't mean he is going to make hte plays on Sunday.

I hope he contributes something to this team.

Personally, he hasn't earned my trust yet (not that that matters much). Everytime the ball is thrown his way, I will be holding my breath.
It honestly shouldn't be this difficult for a pro WR.

We have talked about TO and TW having multiple drops last year, in the double digits for both.
The difference being is that when TO does catch the ball, and that is a lot, he does something after the catch besides fall down.
Let's not turn this into a TO thread, I was just making the point that TW's drops can't be ofset by the other thing that he does on the field, because he doesn't do anything else.
TW needs to catch balls this year.
He can not drop catchable balls.

The kid is likable as a person.
I have seen many feel good articles about TW trying to improve over the last three years.
I have seen the articles about him wanting to be a great player.
But trying and wanting just won't cut it this year.
Doing is everything!

Not to mention TO had broken bones in his hand.

**NDVikingFan66** · 09-08-2007, 11:36 AM

My guess is TW drops a couple Sunday, but we will keep it simple for him, build his confidence, and the confidence of TJ

Short passes, yards after catch, running game, solid defense, terrible special teams

**snowinapril** · 09-08-2007, 11:38 AM

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"snowinapril" wrote:

He made the final cuts so that says something about his worth in comparison to the guys we let go.
If he was worth less than what we are paying him in comparison to the other guys making less, I think we would have let him go.

But, just because we kept him and the fact that he has optimism doesn't mean he is going to make hte plays on Sunday.

I hope he contributes something to this team.

Personally, he hasn't earned my trust yet (not that that matters much). Everytime the ball is thrown his way, I will be holding my breath.
It honestly shouldn't be this difficult for a pro WR.

We have talked about TO and TW having multiple drops last year, in the double digits for both.
The difference being is that when TO does catch the ball, and that is a lot, he does something after the catch besides fall down.
Let's not turn this into a TO thread, I was just making the point that TW's drops can't be ofset by the other thing that he does on the field, because he doesn't do anything else.
TW needs to catch balls this year.
He can not drop catchable balls.

The kid is likable as a person.
I have seen many feel good articles about TW trying to improve over the last three years.
I have seen the articles about him wanting to be a great player.
But trying and wanting just won't cut it this year.
Doing is everything!

Not to mention TO had broken bones in his hand.

True about the hand........ but.......

with both players, drops have followed them year after year.

**snowinapril** · 09-08-2007, 11:39 AM

"NDVikingFan66" wrote:

My guess is TW drops a couple Sunday, but we will keep it simple for him, build his confidence, and the confidence of TJ

Short passes, yards after catch, running game, solid defense, terrible special teams

It is all good until the QB loses interest in throwing to him.
That is why I was suggesting that TW needs to find an upside to his game to offset the drops or the players will lose faith in him.

**jessejames09** · 09-08-2007, 12:14 PM

If he was worth less than what we are paying him in comparison to the other guys making less, I think we would have let him go.

TW's cap hit is over 5 mil this year.

**vike68** · 09-08-2007, 01:33 PM

its all in his head, they need to get him in the game early with a few 15yd slants and get him confident before they start throwing deep, throwing deep right off the back and having him drop a pass, is really going to get in his head and make him continue to struggle.

all the speed, but his eye hand coordination really seems off balanced, sometimes it even seems as if he isnt able to run routes correctly for the deep ball, i time and time again see him have to do a 360 in order to get back on track to make a catch.

**davike** · 09-08-2007, 01:57 PM

"V" wrote:

"davike" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

I hope they stop asking him to be Moss going deep and just give him the quick hitting slants and crossing patterns that he has shown he can catch and take to the endzone. He doesn't seem to have the ability to run,look behind him and catch the ball at the same time yet.

Stick to the basics

Great post! I am not making excuses for all of his drops but if you go and look back you will see that an unfair percentage of the passes thrown his way were bombs. But on short passes he was suprisingly productive. I think he can still be a deep threat to us at some point but he needs to learn more yet. There was still a few really bad drops on short routes so don't get me wrong that I am excusing him.....that 4th down curl route that he dropped might only be erased from my memory by a couple 1000 yard seasons

Even if he doesn't "break out" this year I don't think we will get rid of him. He won't be relied on at all to be a starter, but he could still be a solid 3rd or 4th WR. If he doesn't have a good year, he will have to fight like crazy to be able to crack the starting line up for any team.

I just can't agree with that. Troy has amazing speed and the capability to burn anyone one on one when going deep because of this speed and his route running. When you have a speedy WR like Troy, the best way to use him, either as a primary option or a decoy, is to send him deep. It stretches the defense out, opening up other options both in the pass and running game. Because he can't catch deep balls, which is ridicululous for a pro receiver, he has rendered his speed as almost useless really.

That being said, there is no point in sending him deep if he won't catch the ball. The soultion however, is not to stop sending Williamson deep. The solution is for Williamson to start catching the balls on those deep routes.

You can use speed for something other then deep routes. I agree that he should start catching more then he has, we can try to let him build his confidence up with some shorter passes, screens and such, and hopefully our coaches are working with him, he will be able to start hauling in long balls. Besides he has other strengths besides his speed...he is great after the catch, we could use him like we used Moss on screens and such.