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    Williamses see first flag for chop block

    [size=13pt]Williamses see first flag for chop block[/size]

    Posted on Fri, Dec. 01, 2006

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    Re: Williamses see first flag for chop block

    With less than 30 seconds remaining in the first half of the Vikings' 31-26 victory over the Arizona on Sunday, Cardinals guard Deuce Lutui was flagged for unnecessary roughness because of a chop block on defensive tackle Kevin Williams.

    Only one thing made that unusual.

    "We talk to the refs, but they don't give us calls," defensive tackle Pat Williams said. "That was the first call we got all year. They try to cut all of us, because they can't block us straight up. All we can do is go out and play."

    Cut blocks are permissible in the open field but illegal if the defensive player is engaged with another player.

    Both Williamses have endured the illegal blocks the entire season, most notably against the New England Patriots. In that game, on the second play, Kevin Williams suffered a high ankle sprain on a chop block that wasn't called.

    "It's frustrating," Kevin Williams said. "But I just have to defend myself and make plays. You have to get your eyes and keep your hands up."
    This has been discussed a bit on this site, but it sounds like a minimal number of illegal chop blocks actually get called.
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    Re: Williamses see first flag for chop block

    with the size or those 2. i can understand how it's hard to see if it's a chop block. To be illegeal it has to be done when the defender is engaged with another blocker. If the defender oversized the blocker.. and is chopped.. how does a ref see this?

    notice how those 2 don't whine.. complain.. just go in and shut down teams rushing O!!


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    Re: Williamses see first flag for chop block

    Just for my personal knowledge database, what is the difference between a chop block & a crack back?

    What constitutes a legal one vs. an illegal one?

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    Re: Williamses see first flag for chop block

    That's a good question singer? The thing that surprised me was that the vikings offside pentalty on that play was nullified and the cardinals were sent back fifteen yards due to the illegal chop block or whatever.

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    Re: Williamses see first flag for chop block

    "singersp" wrote:
    Just for my personal knowledge database, what is the difference between a chop block & a crack back?

    What constitutes a legal one vs. an illegal one?
    ??? None of you football experts can answer this question?

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    Re: Williamses see first flag for chop block

    from the nfl rule book....

    1) Crackback: Eligible receivers who take or move to a poisition more than two yards outside the tackle or a player in a backfield position may not block an opponent below the waist toward the ball at the snap and within five yards of the line of scrimmage.

    2) Chop Block: An Obviously delayed block at the thigh or below against and opponent who is in contact with a teamate of the blocker.

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    Re: Williamses see first flag for chop block

    "singersp" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    Just for my personal knowledge database, what is the difference between a chop block & a crack back?

    What constitutes a legal one vs. an illegal one?
    ??? None of you football experts can answer this question?
    Digital pretty much did!
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