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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

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    I still can't fathom how two receivers not named Jerry Rice have made it in since Carter has been eligible.
    Agreed. His whole career it seemed like he was the 2nd best WR behind Rice.

    Truth is it's about politics. Carter pissed off members of the media years ago and they won't let it go.

    The fact Michael Irvin got in on the first attempt with 65 career TDs and Carter doesn't with 130 speaks volumes.
    Yup. Volumes about Irvin's three Super Bowl rings and Carter's zero.

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    That excuse might work for a QB, but WR. Please. Anyone who watched the two play know that Carter was twice the reciever Irvin ever was.


    Anyone that says Irvin is more deserving is either a cowboys fan or high on crack.
    Almost everyone that is not a Vikings fan thinks Irvin deserves to be in the Hall more than Carter. Almost every analyst and almost any fan of other teams.

    Fact is, he made big plays, had better top-end seasons, and won championships.

    There is a reason he was ranked in the top 100 by NFLN and Carter wasn't. And it isn't because everyone else is an idiot. It is because Irvin is widely regarded as a better wideout than Cris.

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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

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    lol must be a typo...I too am shocked he wasn't in on his first try.
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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

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    I still can't fathom how two receivers not named Jerry Rice have made it in since Carter has been eligible.
    Agreed. His whole career it seemed like he was the 2nd best WR behind Rice.

    Truth is it's about politics. Carter pissed off members of the media years ago and they won't let it go.

    The fact Michael Irvin got in on the first attempt with 65 career TDs and Carter doesn't with 130 speaks volumes.
    Yup. Volumes about Irvin's three Super Bowl rings and Carter's zero.

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    *rolls eyes* Individuals don't win SB's all by themselves, teams do.

    The HOF should & is supposed to be based on individual, not team accomplishments.

    WR's Alvin Harper, Jimmy Smith & Kelvin Martin also each have 3 SB rings.

    Do you think they should go to the HOF before Cris?

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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1087564
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    I still can't fathom how two receivers not named Jerry Rice have made it in since Carter has been eligible.
    Agreed. His whole career it seemed like he was the 2nd best WR behind Rice.

    Truth is it's about politics. Carter pissed off members of the media years ago and they won't let it go.

    The fact Michael Irvin got in on the first attempt with 65 career TDs and Carter doesn't with 130 speaks volumes.
    Yup. Volumes about Irvin's three Super Bowl rings and Carter's zero.

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    *rolls eyes* Individuals don't win SB's all by themselves, teams do.

    The HOF should & is supposed to be based on individual, not team accomplishments.

    WR's Alvin Harper, Jimmy Smith & Kelvin Martin also each have 3 SB rings.

    Do you think they should go to the HOF before Cris?
    Did they steal some extra rings? Harper and Smith have 2 and Martin has 1

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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

    [quote="vikinggreg" #1087568]
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1087564
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    I still can't fathom how two receivers not named Jerry Rice have made it in since Carter has been eligible.
    Agreed. His whole career it seemed like he was the 2nd best WR behind Rice.

    Truth is it's about politics. Carter pissed off members of the media years ago and they won't let it go.

    The fact Michael Irvin got in on the first attempt with 65 career TDs and Carter doesn't with 130 speaks volumes.
    Yup. Volumes about Irvin's three Super Bowl rings and Carter's zero.

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    *rolls eyes* Individuals don't win SB's all by themselves, teams do.

    The HOF should & is supposed to be based on individual, not team accomplishments.

    WR's Alvin Harper, Jimmy Smith & Kelvin Martin also each have 3 SB rings.

    Do you think they should go to the HOF before Cris?
    Did they steal some extra rings? Harper and Smith have 2 and Martin has 1[/quote

    You're. I missed that when looking on the rosters. Harper and Smith still have 2 more than Cris & Martin has 1 more.

    My point still is, everyone on that team during those SB wins all received rings. Having a SB ring or even 3 doesn't necessarily make you a better player.

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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1087570
    Quote Originally Posted by "vikinggreg" #1087568
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    I still can't fathom how two receivers not named Jerry Rice have made it in since Carter has been eligible.
    Agreed. His whole career it seemed like he was the 2nd best WR behind Rice.

    Truth is it's about politics. Carter pissed off members of the media years ago and they won't let it go.

    The fact Michael Irvin got in on the first attempt with 65 career TDs and Carter doesn't with 130 speaks volumes.
    Yup. Volumes about Irvin's three Super Bowl rings and Carter's zero.

    =Z=
    *rolls eyes* Individuals don't win SB's all by themselves, teams do.

    The HOF should & is supposed to be based on individual, not team accomplishments.

    WR's Alvin Harper, Jimmy Smith & Kelvin Martin also each have 3 SB rings.

    Do you think they should go to the HOF before Cris?
    Did they steal some extra rings? Harper and Smith have 2 and Martin has 1
    You're. I missed that when looking on the rosters. Harper and Smith still have 2 more than Cris & Martin has 1 more.

    My point still is, everyone on that team during those SB wins all received wins. Having a SB ring doesn't necessarily make you a better player.
    I get the point. And I'm not arguing that Irvin shouldn't have gotten in before Carter. I was just explaining part of why Irvin *did* get in, albeit not on his first time on the ballot, as JMcD wrote.

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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

    Carter may get in this time, but not getting in as a first time eligible player is a slap in the face. If he gets in this year, he will likely be playing third fiddle.

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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

    Yeah. I think Cris gets in this year. The list is pretty short and he should get the invite.

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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

    He will get the Art Monk deal

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    Re: Will Cris carter make the HOF this year?

    Cris Carter Snubbed From Pro Football Hall Of Fame's 2011 Class


    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/2/5/1976979/cris-carter-snubbed-pro-football-hall-of-fame-stats

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