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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    "robertsmith" wrote:
    we are in desperate need of a new stadium

    but will this take away from social programs and needs in the area if this is approved?
    I'm not really familiar with this stuff but if I understand it right. This money would not be taken away from social programs and other needs of the community directly. As they decide how to divide the money up for the next year they just might have to redisturbute it a little better. But the majority of the money would be a sales tax that wasnt there before so that wouldnt be taking money away from anything it would just be extra revenue generated in the community

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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    this is lame. the govt is just being irational with this. they are not looking at the big picture just staring down the "right now". i though we had already gotten a deal before?

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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    Good luck to Wilf, he's gonna need it.

    I just had this same arguement with my grand parents on Thanksgiving. After I pointed out the "big picture" they seemed to agree that we need to help pay for a new stadium.

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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:
    Good luck to Wilf, he's gonna need it.

    I just had this same arguement with my grand parents on Thanksgiving. After I pointed out the "big picture" they seemed to agree that we need to help pay for a new stadium.
    There has to be sales tax on tickets right??

    If so, 64,000 x let's say average ticket of $60 = $3.8 million dollars x .04% = $153,600 in tax on one game x that by 8 games = $1,228,800 a year.

    That doesn't look like much but then think of all the gear that is sold through out the year.

    Then look at how much the average fan spends on gas, food, lodging and other game day necessities.

    Plus 20 years from now everything will be inflated and this whole $200 million thing will look like a drop in the bucket.

    Then think about if the Vikes aren't in MN. The loss of jobs, would equall the loss of state income tax. It isn't just the 100-200people that work at the stadium, it is the beer delivery guy, the companies that are contracted to clean the stadium, the companies that are contracted for security, and the vendors.

    Then it is the players salaries that are taken away from the state. The team could spend up to $85 million each year in salary to players alone.

    Anyone know the approximate state income tax on $85 million.

    Bottom line, the Vikes are more important finacially to the community than the Twins. They are closer to getting the Twins deal done. Once that is done, they will be able to deal with the Vikes. THE POLITICIANS know we aren't going anywhere and they are just waiting it out as long as they can.

    Plus there is the whole Dome Lease thing until 2011.

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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    we need to get this dang stadium built. i dont want our team to move. lets hope ziggy can pull it off
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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    You pretty much said what I was going to say SIA.

    Include into that mix the amount of tax dollars gained by outlet stores & sports shops selling Vikings gear & those jobs.

    Ziggy also plans on building a sports complex around the new stadium, which would include shop, restaurants. They need to take into account the added revenue & jobs that will be available when that opens. They aren't getting that with the current dome.

    The new stadium will have it's own parking, meaning more revenue pouring in. A lot of that money is now going to owners of private lots around the area.

    A stadium cannot be built overnight so they cannot afford to wait until 2011 to make up their minds.

    The longer they wait the more the stadium is going to cost due to inflation.

    If they say yes this year, Ziggy's $280 Million kick in is going to have a bigger dent into the overall cost than it will 3-5 years from now.

    The sooner it's built the sooner these new jobs & additional revenues will be available.

    The state needs to wake up & smell the coffee.

    I remember in 1993 when the state thought we could get by without a pro hockey team, so are North Stars moved to Dallas.

    7 years later, after they realized they were wrong, we have a new hockey team & a new arena.

    Can't these people learn from their own mistakes?

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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:
    Good luck to Wilf, he's gonna need it.

    I just had this same arguement with my grand parents on Thanksgiving. After I pointed out the "big picture" they seemed to agree that we need to help pay for a new stadium.
    There has to be sales tax on tickets right??

    If so, 64,000 x let's say average ticket of $60 = $3.8 million dollars x .04% = $153,600 in tax on one game x that by 8 games = $1,228,800 a year.

    That doesn't look like much but then think of all the gear that is sold through out the year.

    Then look at how much the average fan spends on gas, food, lodging and other game day necessities.

    Plus 20 years from now everything will be inflated and this whole $200 million thing will look like a drop in the bucket.

    Then think about if the Vikes aren't in MN. The loss of jobs, would equall the loss of state income tax. It isn't just the 100-200people that work at the stadium, it is the beer delivery guy, the companies that are contracted to clean the stadium, the companies that are contracted for security, and the vendors.

    Then it is the players salaries that are taken away from the state. The team could spend up to $85 million each year in salary to players alone.

    Anyone know the approximate state income tax on $85 million.

    Bottom line, the Vikes are more important finacially to the community than the Twins. They are closer to getting the Twins deal done. Once that is done, they will be able to deal with the Vikes. THE POLITICIANS know we aren't going anywhere and they are just waiting it out as long as they can.

    Plus there is the whole Dome Lease thing until 2011.

    You know, the people of Indi believed the same thing ... Till they became the Ravens .... Wilf can say all he wants this team is going nowhere, but if he is shot down again and again on the stadium (which we all know he badly wants) I could easily see this team becoming the Orlando Seagulls really easy .... (their will be a team in LA already plus I would love to see them move down here closer to me in Tampa) ..... sorry, call me greedy ... lol

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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    "mnjamie" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:
    Good luck to Wilf, he's gonna need it.

    I just had this same arguement with my grand parents on Thanksgiving. After I pointed out the "big picture" they seemed to agree that we need to help pay for a new stadium.
    There has to be sales tax on tickets right??

    If so, 64,000 x let's say average ticket of $60 = $3.8 million dollars x .04% = $153,600 in tax on one game x that by 8 games = $1,228,800 a year.

    That doesn't look like much but then think of all the gear that is sold through out the year.

    Then look at how much the average fan spends on gas, food, lodging and other game day necessities.

    Plus 20 years from now everything will be inflated and this whole $200 million thing will look like a drop in the bucket.

    Then think about if the Vikes aren't in MN. The loss of jobs, would equall the loss of state income tax. It isn't just the 100-200people that work at the stadium, it is the beer delivery guy, the companies that are contracted to clean the stadium, the companies that are contracted for security, and the vendors.

    Then it is the players salaries that are taken away from the state. The team could spend up to $85 million each year in salary to players alone.

    Anyone know the approximate state income tax on $85 million.

    Bottom line, the Vikes are more important finacially to the community than the Twins. They are closer to getting the Twins deal done. Once that is done, they will be able to deal with the Vikes. THE POLITICIANS know we aren't going anywhere and they are just waiting it out as long as they can.

    Plus there is the whole Dome Lease thing until 2011.

    You know, the people of Indi believed the same thing ... Till they became the Ravens .... Wilf can say all he wants this team is going nowhere, but if he is shot down again and again on the stadium (which we all know he badly wants) I could easily see this team becoming the Orlando Seagulls really easy .... (their will be a team in LA already plus I would love to see them move down here closer to me in Tampa) ..... sorry, call me greedy ... lol
    Greedy!

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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:
    "mnjamie" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:
    Good luck to Wilf, he's gonna need it.

    I just had this same arguement with my grand parents on Thanksgiving. After I pointed out the "big picture" they seemed to agree that we need to help pay for a new stadium.
    There has to be sales tax on tickets right??

    If so, 64,000 x let's say average ticket of $60 = $3.8 million dollars x .04% = $153,600 in tax on one game x that by 8 games = $1,228,800 a year.

    That doesn't look like much but then think of all the gear that is sold through out the year.

    Then look at how much the average fan spends on gas, food, lodging and other game day necessities.

    Plus 20 years from now everything will be inflated and this whole $200 million thing will look like a drop in the bucket.

    Then think about if the Vikes aren't in MN. The loss of jobs, would equall the loss of state income tax. It isn't just the 100-200people that work at the stadium, it is the beer delivery guy, the companies that are contracted to clean the stadium, the companies that are contracted for security, and the vendors.

    Then it is the players salaries that are taken away from the state. The team could spend up to $85 million each year in salary to players alone.

    Anyone know the approximate state income tax on $85 million.

    Bottom line, the Vikes are more important finacially to the community than the Twins. They are closer to getting the Twins deal done. Once that is done, they will be able to deal with the Vikes. THE POLITICIANS know we aren't going anywhere and they are just waiting it out as long as they can.

    Plus there is the whole Dome Lease thing until 2011.

    You know, the people of Indi believed the same thing ... Till they became the Ravens .... Wilf can say all he wants this team is going nowhere, but if he is shot down again and again on the stadium (which we all know he badly wants) I could easily see this team becoming the Orlando Seagulls really easy .... (their will be a team in LA already plus I would love to see them move down here closer to me in Tampa) ..... sorry, call me greedy ... lol
    Greedy!

    :lol:

    Hay, Hay, hay .... if it is for certain they are going to move, might as be down here where you have a place to crash w\ 57" TV, NFL Ticket and all the beer one could drink .... Right????? :lol:

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    Re: Wilfy working hard for a New stadium ....

    Ziggy is gonna get it done at some point ... the Vikes will have a gorgeous new home by 2010 ... just a gut feeling.

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