01-04-2014, 01:48 AM #11
Everyone on this site needs to learn the definition of criminal, asap.
If the mailman slips on your un-shoveled walk, and sues you for damages, and you lose in civil court are you a criminal?
So are the Wilfs criminals?
Instead ask yourself: are the Wilfs ruthless business people, shysters even?
01-04-2014, 08:01 AM #12
It's funny when the Wilfs came in and started spending money on players everyone was like wow these are the best owners ever. Did they make some mistakes in who they hired as coaches? Yes, but when Chilly was hired he was considered to be the top pick of those available at the time. He didn't work out but its sort of like drafting a Ryan Leaf. They look good on paper but don't make it in the real world. And its not like our coach's are the only ones failing to produce a winner. Hopefully their next coach selection will do better. I don't think the Wilfs are cheap and I think they are trying to build a winning team. Also the civil suit is being appealed and it is about something that happened in the 1980's. It will have no effect on players contracts or coaching contracts. For example the owner of the 49ers had some legal trouble a while back but it did not keep them from building a pretty good team. I don't have a problem with the Wilf ownership. They stayed with the battle for a new stadium in MN when a lot of owners would have left for warmer and more agreeable climates. I understand we are all disappointed with the Vikes at the moment but I see the Wilfs making moves to correct the problems. ie. Getting a new coaching staff which I think has been the major problem this year.
01-04-2014, 08:57 AM #13
The owners need to stop meddling...owners Own, managers Manage, coaches Coach..the owners (cough) shysters need to stay the fuck out of the way, pay what needs to be paid, and let everybody else do their jobs.
Last edited by 2beersTommy; 01-04-2014 at 09:01 AM.
01-04-2014, 09:19 AM #14
01-04-2014, 09:29 AM #15
Most owners dont run real estate scams and rip people off either. Why own a team, when you fuck over ordinary Joes out of millions?
running the team, and interfering with the team are two different things.
owners are like children, they should be seen, not heard.
Last edited by 2beersTommy; 01-04-2014 at 09:50 AM.
01-04-2014, 10:55 AM #16
If you're Bob Kraft, Art Rooney, or the Cabal that controls the Packers, you hire a competent GM and let him MANAGE.
Since the latter model is the one currently winning Superbowls, I'd say that LIMITING your input might be wise. Especially if you and your family members are simply rich shysters from New jersey with no real KNOWLEDGE of football and the inner workings of the NFL.
Hell, in Zygi's first year he was advised by Goodell to hire a GM and back off...he didn't listen.
Originally Posted by RK
Originally Posted by RK
BOTTOM LINE: Zygi and his family have to back off. Let Spielman do what he was brought in to do. If he fails, fire him. Otherwise, sit in the owners box, wave to the camera, and quit screwing up the process.
01-04-2014, 12:25 PM #17Coordinator
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The path to wealth isn't always as simple as investment and hard work.
The Wilf's became wealthy off this real estate deal, in part by screwing their business partners.
01-04-2014, 01:29 PM #18
It was Spielman who dumped Fiedler & traded for his guy AJ Feeley. Oh wait!
Ok, well it was Spielman who was big on Sage Rosenfels & look how good he panned out for us. Oh Snap!
But what about Ponder? He led us to a 10-6 record in 2012. Oh yeah, that was AD's big year.
Now he's searching for our next QB & coach and isn't ruling out high school coaches as options. Can't wait to see how this pans out.
"If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"
01-04-2014, 01:40 PM #19