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    Re: Why is everyone so down

    "Del" wrote:
    Well sorry to say that we are probably going to finish middle of the pack. So you might as well start feeling sad too.

    A high draft pick doesn't = a good draft pick always
    Definatley not enough to justify having to watch crappy football when you know your team is better, and NEVER EVER justify losing on purpose (which you didnt suggest) if anyone ever does that they should be banned from the NFL for life.
    Randy Moss' Stats for his first two seasons. He was a #21 overall draft pick.

    149 Receptions, 2726 yards, 28 Touchdowns, 46 receptions of 20 or more yards, 24 receptions of 40 or more yards, 103 first downs.

    Here is Troy Williamson's stats for his first year and a half combined. #7 overall draft pick.

    49 receptions 694 yards, 2 Touchdowns, 10 receptions of 20 or more yards, 3 receptions of 40 or more yards, 34 first downs.

    Moss more than tripled his production in every stat in only 25% more time, and was picked at a spot 3 times as high. And Troy is lucky drops isn't a stat on NFL.com, or else there would be another stat Moss dominated him in, by probably 20 times.


    We don't need a new receiver, we need an old one back. No one on this site can say that it was a good trade anymore.



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    Re: Why is everyone so down

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    "Del" wrote:
    Well sorry to say that we are probably going to finish middle of the pack. So you might as well start feeling sad too.

    A high draft pick doesn't = a good draft pick always
    Definatley not enough to justify having to watch crappy football when you know your team is better, and NEVER EVER justify losing on purpose (which you didnt suggest) if anyone ever does that they should be banned from the NFL for life.
    Randy Moss' Stats for his first two seasons. He was a #21 overall draft pick.

    149 Receptions, 2726 yards, 28 Touchdowns, 46 receptions of 20 or more yards, 24 receptions of 40 or more yards, 103 first downs.

    Here is Troy Williamson's stats for his first year and a half combined. #7 overall draft pick.

    49 receptions 694 yards, 2 Touchdowns, 10 receptions of 20 or more yards, 3 receptions of 40 or more yards, 34 first downs.

    Moss more than tripled his production in every stat in only 25% more time, and was picked at a spot 3 times as high. And Troy is lucky drops isn't a stat on NFL.com, or else there would be another stat Moss dominated him in, by probably 20 times.


    We don't need a new receiver, we need an old one back. No one on this site can say that it was a good trade anymore.


    Moss would have been drafted where Kevin Dyson was drafted had he not had character issues coming into the draft so he would have been a high draft pick had the Titans gone with him instead of Dyson.

    I remember they were touted as the two best WR's coming out of college and there was massive debate about who would go where.

    Nevermind Dyson was the first WR taken at 16. That is not that much Higher.

    Randy Moss lives in Al Davis' world now. You will never see him again.

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    Re: Why is everyone so down

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    I'm responding to this post for no reason other than satisfying my post whoring needs for the morning.

    A wise man once said, "One player does not a team make".
    Hey, I got quoted!!
    I feel warm and fuzzy inside, and this time its not my flask of vodka hidden undr my desk drawer!

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    Re: Why is everyone so down

    I'm mad because we lost to SF......i have a bad feeling about this game with the Packers. If we lose, I'm gonna jump off a 2 story building. I don't wanna die ya know.....lol.

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    Re: Why is everyone so down

    uhhh..we scored 3 points against the 49ers (on pace to allow more points than anybody in nfl history), and now our star defensive player is starting to go apeshit in the media over how disgraceful the offense is
    People who see life as anything more than pure entertainment are missing the point.

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    "arialassault84" wrote:
    Every one keeps talking so down about what is happening with the vikes. Why??? I'm loving the fact that we are losing. This team needs offense and needs it bad. Finishing 8-8 or 9-9 is going to do nothing to help this offense. finishing in the middle of the pack has plagued us for years.When a team is stuck in the middle
    of the pack during the draft you get OK talent( unless someone falls) and never really get better. So the next year again middle of the pack. The vikes have been there for years. Next year a top five pick and we can start all over with this franchise. Clavin Johnson is the future, the game breaker we need. If anyone refers to Twill because we picked #7, just look at who was picking and what was available. I stand by the fact that we should have taken Derrick Johnson or we could have had Merriman.
    lol and we got troy williamson with a very high pick, and look how thats turned out..you win as many games as you can, and this place becomes an attractive player in the FA market..i wouldnt depend on a receiver in the draft as much as getting a guy in FA
    People who see life as anything more than pure entertainment are missing the point.

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    Re: Why is everyone so down

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    "Del" wrote:
    Well sorry to say that we are probably going to finish middle of the pack. So you might as well start feeling sad too.

    A high draft pick doesn't = a good draft pick always
    Definatley not enough to justify having to watch crappy football when you know your team is better, and NEVER EVER justify losing on purpose (which you didnt suggest) if anyone ever does that they should be banned from the NFL for life.
    Randy Moss' Stats for his first two seasons. He was a #21 overall draft pick.

    149 Receptions, 2726 yards, 28 Touchdowns, 46 receptions of 20 or more yards, 24 receptions of 40 or more yards, 103 first downs.

    Here is Troy Williamson's stats for his first year and a half combined. #7 overall draft pick.

    49 receptions 694 yards, 2 Touchdowns, 10 receptions of 20 or more yards, 3 receptions of 40 or more yards, 34 first downs.

    Moss more than tripled his production in every stat in only 25% more time, and was picked at a spot 3 times as high. And Troy is lucky drops isn't a stat on NFL.com, or else there would be another stat Moss dominated him in, by probably 20 times.


    We don't need a new receiver, we need an old one back. No one on this site can say that it was a good trade anymore.




    Randy had a better situation than Troy walked into!




    Randy 1998

    Cris Carter and Jake Reed where 1 and 2 to start the season so there really wasn't a ton of pressure on Randy to be the star.

    Had the best o-line in football that year and Cunningham had outstanding season when he replaced Brad Johnson who got hurt at the start of the season.

    Had Dennis Green as his headcoach and Brian Billick as his O-coordinator.

    Had Robert Smith coming out of the backfield to make defenses cheat up to try and stop him.




    Troy 2005

    No number 1 receiver to start the season, Koren slowly worked his way to that position. Expectation were really high for Troy to take Randy's place and he had a lot of pressure put on him.

    O-line decimated by injuries to Birk, Rosenthal and Tice being to stupid to bring Dixon to camp.

    Onterrio Smith suspended for the season because of drug use.

    Daunte spazzed out at the start of the season and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, and then he had a new QB 1/2 way through the season, even tho Brad filled in Ok for Daunte after he got hurt.

    Had meat-head Tice as his head coach and Steve Loney (O-line coach) as his O-coordinator.




    Troy in 2005 didn't have all the advantages that Randy did in 1998, and we are lucky Troy didn't quit and run away like Underwood did.
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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    Re: Why is everyone so down

    "whackthepack" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
    "Del" wrote:
    Well sorry to say that we are probably going to finish middle of the pack. So you might as well start feeling sad too.

    A high draft pick doesn't = a good draft pick always
    Definatley not enough to justify having to watch crappy football when you know your team is better, and NEVER EVER justify losing on purpose (which you didnt suggest) if anyone ever does that they should be banned from the NFL for life.
    Randy Moss' Stats for his first two seasons. He was a #21 overall draft pick.

    149 Receptions, 2726 yards, 28 Touchdowns, 46 receptions of 20 or more yards, 24 receptions of 40 or more yards, 103 first downs.

    Here is Troy Williamson's stats for his first year and a half combined. #7 overall draft pick.

    49 receptions 694 yards, 2 Touchdowns, 10 receptions of 20 or more yards, 3 receptions of 40 or more yards, 34 first downs.

    Moss more than tripled his production in every stat in only 25% more time, and was picked at a spot 3 times as high. And Troy is lucky drops isn't a stat on NFL.com, or else there would be another stat Moss dominated him in, by probably 20 times.


    We don't need a new receiver, we need an old one back. No one on this site can say that it was a good trade anymore.




    Randy had a better situation than Troy walked into!




    Randy 1998

    Cris Carter and Jake Reed where 1 and 2 to start the season so there really wasn't a ton of pressure on Randy to be the star.

    Had the best o-line in football that year and Cunningham had outstanding season when he replaced Brad Johnson who got hurt at the start of the season.

    Had Dennis Green as his headcoach and Brian Billick as his O-coordinator.

    Had Robert Smith coming out of the backfield to make defenses cheat up to try and stop him.




    Troy 2005

    No number 1 receiver to start the season, Koren slowly worked his way to that position. Expectation were really high for Troy to take Randy's place and he had a lot of pressure put on him.

    O-line decimated by injuries to Birk, Rosenthal and Tice being to stupid to bring Dixon to camp.

    Onterrio Smith suspended for the season because of drug use.

    Daunte spazzed out at the start of the season and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, and then he had a new QB 1/2 way through the season, even tho Brad filled in Ok for Daunte after he got hurt.

    Had meat-head Tice as his head coach and Steve Loney (O-line coach) as his O-coordinator.




    Troy in 2005 didn't have all the advantages that Randy did in 1998, and we are lucky Troy didn't quit and run away like Underwood did.
    sure, but randy could make the most of his opportunity and actually catch a damn football..even last season troy looked like an idiot when he tried catching deep balls
    People who see life as anything more than pure entertainment are missing the point.

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    Re: Why is everyone so down

    "whackthepack" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
    "Del" wrote:
    Well sorry to say that we are probably going to finish middle of the pack. So you might as well start feeling sad too.

    A high draft pick doesn't = a good draft pick always
    Definatley not enough to justify having to watch crappy football when you know your team is better, and NEVER EVER justify losing on purpose (which you didnt suggest) if anyone ever does that they should be banned from the NFL for life.
    Randy Moss' Stats for his first two seasons. He was a #21 overall draft pick.

    149 Receptions, 2726 yards, 28 Touchdowns, 46 receptions of 20 or more yards, 24 receptions of 40 or more yards, 103 first downs.

    Here is Troy Williamson's stats for his first year and a half combined. #7 overall draft pick.

    49 receptions 694 yards, 2 Touchdowns, 10 receptions of 20 or more yards, 3 receptions of 40 or more yards, 34 first downs.

    Moss more than tripled his production in every stat in only 25% more time, and was picked at a spot 3 times as high. And Troy is lucky drops isn't a stat on NFL.com, or else there would be another stat Moss dominated him in, by probably 20 times.


    We don't need a new receiver, we need an old one back. No one on this site can say that it was a good trade anymore.




    Randy had a better situation than Troy walked into!




    Randy 1998

    Cris Carter and Jake Reed where 1 and 2 to start the season so there really wasn't a ton of pressure on Randy to be the star.

    Had the best o-line in football that year and Cunningham had outstanding season when he replaced Brad Johnson who got hurt at the start of the season.

    Had Dennis Green as his headcoach and Brian Billick as his O-coordinator.

    Had Robert Smith coming out of the backfield to make defenses cheat up to try and stop him.




    Troy 2005

    No number 1 receiver to start the season, Koren slowly worked his way to that position. Expectation were really high for Troy to take Randy's place and he had a lot of pressure put on him.

    O-line decimated by injuries to Birk, Rosenthal and Tice being to stupid to bring Dixon to camp.

    Onterrio Smith suspended for the season because of drug use.

    Daunte spazzed out at the start of the season and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, and then he had a new QB 1/2 way through the season, even tho Brad filled in Ok for Daunte after he got hurt.

    Had meat-head Tice as his head coach and Steve Loney (O-line coach) as his O-coordinator.




    Troy in 2005 didn't have all the advantages that Randy did in 1998, and we are lucky Troy didn't quit and run away like Underwood did.
    Ok, even if his situation was better, 4 times the yards, 8-9 times the amount of touchdowns, 1/3 of the receptions.... a mediocre situation is no excuse for talent, if you get drafted at #7, and have 4.3 speed you're expected to make an impact, and he hasn't.

    Say what you want, but you and I both know you would rather have Randy Moss on this team than Troy Williamson.

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    Wow...the minute this turned into a Moss thread this happened:

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