Not to mention a lot of people on here are really down on Derek Carr because of his bowl game. Fresno State vs USC, his offensive line was horrible. He lit it up during senior bowl practices and game. Trust me this is in no way me saying he will be a good QB. Just making a point. I have not just watched sportscenter, for highlight reels. Ive watched hours of videos on a good number of these qbs. Ive seen Manziel in the pocket but almost always he even thinks someone might come free hes ready to take off. Straight up his strength is improvisation. Not pocket presence and reading the defense in front of him.
None of these QB's are going to cum in and start and make an impact so why draft somebody that high that wont start thats why they need to focus on defense wit tha first two picks a LB and CB and Boyd wouldn't be bad for a late draft pick
I think Turner has the ability to work in JFM's innate abilities to escape pocket collapses IF Manziel is willing to do most of his throwing from the pocket. In other words, if Zimmer and Turner think they can turn Manziel into more of a Steve Young, he WILL work in Turner's offense. I lived in the Bay Area for 15 years and saw just about every 49er game (it was the only frikkin game on), and Young preferred (when he matured) staying in the pocket and only using his feet when he had to. If Manziel can learn to do that, or more importantly, Turner and Zimmer think they can TEACH him that, they will pick him.
If not, they won't. Turner will not create a completely new offense for Johnny, with this I agree.
I just have a firm belief that none of these qbs are worth a pick at 8. I do believe that Carr, Mettenberger would be successful with Norv. But not at 8. Carr will be gone by end of first, I wouldn't be surprised if he even gets drafted before one or two of the supposed big 3. I just see too many defensive needs in this draft, LBs in particular to take a qb at 8. Don't wanna see pick 8 used on a qb we will have to wait and see for 3 more years to see if he pans out.
Personally, I don't think it was so much trust, it was just that he had a lot of success in scrambling and improvising so he just kept doing it. Added bonus that he gets to make more highlight reels that way. A&M doesn't care about preparing Manziel for the NFL, so why force him into it if he is succeeding playing Johnny ball.
Look, the one thing everyone agrees on is Manziel has a large hill to climb to be successful in the NFL. We tend to focus on his scrambling... why? Because its frikkin exciting, and makes great film bites for our consumption. But I really could give a crap about it, to tell the truth. Pryor in Oakland was also very good at scrambling, but it didn't do too much for the team in the end, did it?
All these QBs are about possibilities; none of them will be superstars in 2014 (unless a Cleveland drafts one and shoves him in at the beginning of the season, and that player has all my sympathy). I like what he brings to the table, and the possibilities of a Manziel are a huge amount of fun to think on for our team. In the end, it really doesn't matter what we think, does it?
He will either mature into a superstar, or blow up spectacularly, with all the hoopla the NFL can provide. One draft pick in any draft, barring a Sapp, Lawrence Taylor or Andrew Luck sitting there to be taken, will not be remembered. But PASSING on a guy like that WILL. If Clowney or Mack is there at 8, I expect this whole conversation to be a mote point.
My guess is Derek Carr.
I predicted in another thread that we would draft BPA other than a quarterback with pick number eight. Then trade back into the first round with Cinci at 24 and snag Carr before Cleveland in case they are thinking they can get him at 26.