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    When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    I am just curious, and I hope to God this never happens, but for all the people who want to stay with Brad, at what point, if ever is enough, enough?
    Just trying to gauge the members' opinions

    At what point, if ever, do we start planning for next year?

    Lets pray for 8-0 to finish the season though, then this issue will not be an issue any longer.


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    Re: When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    I picked green bay cuz there wasnt a "yesterday at 4:30pm" option.
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    Re: When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    I picked if we are out of playoff contention (which by the way we are the 6th seed if it started today). I just cannot see turn it over to TJ or Bollinger right now, but I am not so sure I would not bail if we lost next week, because then without a change we are out of playoff contention.
    Brad is to be blamed a lot I think. He is not making the quick reads and is making suspect decisions ... two things someone with his lack of physical gifts needs to avoid.

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    Re: When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    If Brad fails next week...its Brooks time. It's not like he has a learning curve at 38!

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    Re: When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    I think that you have to look at it as.. we need something to change..

    if we loose to GarbageBay we have to see what we can change.. one of those changes is to see if things work better with either of our backups. I'd like to see it go in order though as i'm sure Tjack isn't ready yet, and i'd like him to spend more time with B.j and learn how to read D's.

    I am not asking for B.j's number to be yanked, but it's one change that i'm sure coaches will be looking at and hopefully we wont need to go there.

    Until the season ends, i'm expecting to see B.j start every game!! lets hope he can start running the O a bit better based on what we have atm.

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    Re: When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    There are three conditions that will have to be met in order for Brad to get benched.

    1:
    We are eliminated from the Play-Off picture.
    2:
    The rest of the Offense picks it up and Brad is the achilles heel.
    3:
    As a result of #2, Childress decides that Johnson will not likely be the starter next season.

    While I can see #1 being a possibility - especially if our Offense stays in hibernation - I doubt #2 will, or #3.
    Also, while I doubt Johnson will start next season, that decision won't be made until next season.

    A few quotes from the Vikings themselves:

    Johnson has 'good day,' but not in points wrote:

    http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...l/15939242.htm
    Wide receiver Travis Taylor, who had a key illegal-block-in-the-back penalty to wipe out what could have been a 65-yard touchdown pass play to Chester Taylor, said it would be unfair to pin this loss on Johnson.

    Fullback Tony Richardson agreed.

    "He's a quarterback," Richardson said. "He'll stand up as a man and say he'll take it, but guys on offense know it's not Brad. Obviously, he's the guy who's got to take the brunt of it, but there's no way in the world he deserves it. I'll rally behind Brad Johnson any week."

    Center Matt Birk said Sunday's loss was a team effort, at least on the offensive side.

    "Brad knows the deal," Birk said. "I know that Brad knows everyone here is with him. Trust me, this is the ultimate team game. It's never one guy. To a man, everyone on offense has to play better."
    I think that pretty much sums it up.

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    Re: When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    "Caine" wrote:
    There are three conditions that will have to be met in order for Brad to get benched.

    1:
    We are eliminated from the Play-Off picture.
    2:
    The rest of the Offense picks it up and Brad is the achilles heel.
    3:
    As a result of #2, Childress decides that Johnson will not likely be the starter next season.

    While I can see #1 being a possibility - especially if our Offense stays in hibernation - I doubt #2 will, or #3.
    Also, while I doubt Johnson will start next season, that decision won't be made until next season.

    A few quotes from the Vikings themselves:

    Johnson has 'good day,' but not in points wrote:

    http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...l/15939242.htm
    Wide receiver Travis Taylor, who had a key illegal-block-in-the-back penalty to wipe out what could have been a 65-yard touchdown pass play to Chester Taylor, said it would be unfair to pin this loss on Johnson.

    Fullback Tony Richardson agreed.

    "He's a quarterback," Richardson said. "He'll stand up as a man and say he'll take it, but guys on offense know it's not Brad. Obviously, he's the guy who's got to take the brunt of it, but there's no way in the world he deserves it. I'll rally behind Brad Johnson any week."

    Center Matt Birk said Sunday's loss was a team effort, at least on the offensive side.

    "Brad knows the deal," Birk said. "I know that Brad knows everyone here is with him. Trust me, this is the ultimate team game. It's never one guy. To a man, everyone on offense has to play better."
    I think that pretty much sums it up.

    Caine

    I see what you're saying Caine, but it's difficult for the rest of the offense to pick it up when the man who gets them the ball every play (O-line excluded) is struggling.
    In the end, who do you replace Birk and Richarson with?
    Despite their struggles, they're
    still the best we have at those positions.
    In Brad's case, that remains to be seen.


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    Re: When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    I say if we lose the next 3 of 4, because after that our season is down the toilet and it won't matter who is the qb

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    Re: When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    "Caine" wrote:
    There are three conditions that will have to be met in order for Brad to get benched.

    1:
    We are eliminated from the Play-Off picture.
    2:
    The rest of the Offense picks it up and Brad is the achilles heel.
    3:
    As a result of #2, Childress decides that Johnson will not likely be the starter next season.

    While I can see #1 being a possibility - especially if our Offense stays in hibernation - I doubt #2 will, or #3.
    Also, while I doubt Johnson will start next season, that decision won't be made until next season.

    A few quotes from the Vikings themselves:

    Johnson has 'good day,' but not in points wrote:

    http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...l/15939242.htm
    Wide receiver Travis Taylor, who had a key illegal-block-in-the-back penalty to wipe out what could have been a 65-yard touchdown pass play to Chester Taylor, said it would be unfair to pin this loss on Johnson.

    Fullback Tony Richardson agreed.

    "He's a quarterback," Richardson said. "He'll stand up as a man and say he'll take it, but guys on offense know it's not Brad. Obviously, he's the guy who's got to take the brunt of it, but there's no way in the world he deserves it. I'll rally behind Brad Johnson any week."

    Center Matt Birk said Sunday's loss was a team effort, at least on the offensive side.

    "Brad knows the deal," Birk said. "I know that Brad knows everyone here is with him. Trust me, this is the ultimate team game. It's never one guy. To a man, everyone on offense has to play better."
    I think that pretty much sums it up.

    Caine

    I see what you're saying Caine, but it's difficult for the rest of the offense to pick it up when the man who gets them the ball every play (O-line excluded) is struggling.
    In the end, who do you replace Birk and Richarson with?
    Despite their struggles, they're
    still the best we have at those positions.
    In Brad's case, that remains to be seen.
    That's a fairly big stretch. How can you say that there is no one better then Birk or Richardson and say that "It remains to be seen" that someone is better then Brad? Ryan Cook could do just as good for Birk as Tavaris could for Brad. You have no idea. If they are on the field chances are they are the best man for the job. There is no reason NOT to put the best players on the field.

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    Re: When, if ever does Brad get the hook?

    Actually, the hook is a vaudeville thing. And while the Vikings have stunk it up a bit over the past couple of weeks, they haven't arrived at vaudevillian quite yet.


    Personally, I don't think there is intelligent life on other planets. Why should other planets be any different from this one?

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