Thread: What will the score of the vikings-cowboys game be?

"seekndestroy31" wrote:

"vikingsalltheway" wrote:

I see quincy carter throwing some gift passes to our defense giving us some points off turnovers.

You seem very sure there in that run defense of yours there gentlemen..

Flozell was an all pro last year, along with LA

This means Udeze and Hovan are neutralized

We get Al Johnson back @ C after mising last yar with an injury

RG and RT for us are question marks with incumbants Andre Gurode and Torrin Tucker

We did get reinforcements through the draft with Jacob Rogers and Stephen Peterman

Now, the 1 match up that concerns me is Kevin Williams vs Johnson and/or Gurode...I suspect Williams will command a double team most or all of the game.

Now, Mixon will miss the 1st 2 games due to suspension, which relegates your team to a back up LE, which helps our cause with either Tucker or Rogers with help from Dan Campbell

I like our chances to be able to run the ball effectively..which is the only way we win that game...we need the ball for 35 minutes or more to win

The Cowboys plan is to use Julius Jones a lot in the short passing game. That is something the Vikings will need to be careful about. Their TE Jason Witten will also become a threat this year. But I disagree with you that the Cowboys will be able to run the ball effectively. Maybe last year or the year before vs. the Vikes, but the problem then was our older, injured LBs trying to keep up with the likes of Ahman Green, Ladainan Tomlinson, Marshall Faulk, etc...this year the LBs will have the speed and tackling skills to stop the running game. They may struggle at times reading the offense but it will be a lot harder for teams to run well against us.

Eddie George might seem old and washed up to most, but I've seen him truck Ray Lewis with a dislocated shoulder, so if there is a weakness in our Linebacker corps, he WILL show it

I think this will be a close game but a win for the good guys to get the season started in the right direction! It just seems like we play better at the begining of the season, plus it is at home.

just like the job Vikes 24 Cowgirls 7 must be a safty in there somewhere just came out that way

30-17 vikings with having moss with at least two td's, maybe even more. :shock:

"vikingsalltheway" wrote:

"seekndestroy31" wrote:

"jiggyjack" wrote:

weve got to hold them to under 21 pts. to pull this one off. i think our secondary is good enough to hold the passing game and to pull off a pick or two. the biggest problem for the cowgirls id their run game, they dont have a proven back and the o line looks ok but i dont think they have enough to hold up.

Eddie George?...Mr Versatility Richie Anderson?

Winfield is a very good CB, but @ 5'9" he is a size mismatch against Keyshawn Johnson @ 6'4"

I really like the matchup of our TE's against your LB's

I dont see anyone of your LB's who matches up very well against them

Typical cowboy fan cmon now Henderson could easily take on campbell one on one.

If Henderson is indeed in your nickel or dime package, he certainly isnt going to be in man on man coverage...and Campbell shouldnt be nearly as much of a concern as Witten

Henderson would be much more effective in a zone where he only has to cover his area within the zone...but man on man?

Surely you jest

Nattiel or D Thomas (when he gets into camp) would be a far better match up IMHO

"TheMaineViking" wrote:

"seekndestroy31" wrote:

"vikingsalltheway" wrote:

I see quincy carter throwing some gift passes to our defense giving us some points off turnovers.

You seem very sure there in that run defense of yours there gentlemen..

Flozell was an all pro last year, along with LA

This means Udeze and Hovan are neutralized

We get Al Johnson back @ C after mising last yar with an injury

RG and RT for us are question marks with incumbants Andre Gurode and Torrin Tucker

We did get reinforcements through the draft with Jacob Rogers and Stephen Peterman

Now, the 1 match up that concerns me is Kevin Williams vs Johnson and/or Gurode...I suspect Williams will command a double team most or all of the game.

Now, Mixon will miss the 1st 2 games due to suspension, which relegates your team to a back up LE, which helps our cause with either Tucker or Rogers with help from Dan Campbell

I like our chances to be able to run the ball effectively..which is the only way we win that game...we need the ball for 35 minutes or more to win

The Cowboys plan is to use Julius Jones a lot in the short passing game. That is something the Vikings will need to be careful about. Their TE Jason Witten will also become a threat this year. But I disagree with you that the Cowboys will be able to run the ball effectively. Maybe last year or the year before vs. the Vikes, but the problem then was our older, injured LBs trying to keep up with the likes of Ahman Green, Ladainan Tomlinson, Marshall Faulk, etc...this year the LBs will have the speed and tackling skills to stop the running game. They may struggle at times reading the offense but it will be a lot harder for teams to run well against us.

Heres the thing ..if our OL can handle your DL without double team and Our FB's and TE's get out to your LB's you may be surprised with our ground game

I have no concerns with our left side...and even Old LA is in the best shape he's been in since the late 90's according to everything Ive read and heard

Minus Mixon, the only guy who concerns me is Kevin Williams--especially since our projected starting Center is coming off a knee injury and ROG Andre Gurode is a big question

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

Yo seek and destroy, don't you need a running back in order to run the ball on us. Are you trying to tell us that Julius Jones will be all over us? Or Maybe Eddie George who hasn't averaged much more than 3 yards carry in how long? He was proven 3 years ago, now all he has proven is he is very close to done. Speed backs hurt our D last year, and George is no speed back, it takes him like 10 seconds just to run sideline to sideline. :P

Larry Allen is old, we've played against better o-line and had success stopping the run, look at KC last year.

I honestly think if we don't hold their offense to under 20 points it would be a serious underacheivement.

KC had already lockd up a division championship when they were blown away up there too

And LA?...Watching him bludgeon Hovan is something Im looking forward too

Julius Jones cant be all that bad...Steven Jackson and Kevin Jones, (both available for us when we were on the clock) were both bypassed.

And its not like he's gonna be featured either..part of a RB by commitee set up like the Fecals had last year with Buckhalter, Staley and Westbrook

seekndestroy I don't think the Cowboys offensive line is that good aside from Flozell Adams. Larry Allen is past his prime I just don't see him winning the day against Hovan without double team help which he probably won't get. And the right side of the Cowboys line really doesn't match up well at all against the Vikings. Udeze will be filling in for Mixon at LE only while he serves his suspension which puts him right next to Kevin Williams for that game. I just don't think the Cowboys will be able to handle that.

So I don't think the Cowboys line will be able to shutdown the Vikings d line.

"seekndestroy31" wrote:

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

Yo seek and destroy, don't you need a running back in order to run the ball on us. Are you trying to tell us that Julius Jones will be all over us? Or Maybe Eddie George who hasn't averaged much more than 3 yards carry in how long? He was proven 3 years ago, now all he has proven is he is very close to done. Speed backs hurt our D last year, and George is no speed back, it takes him like 10 seconds just to run sideline to sideline. :P

Larry Allen is old, we've played against better o-line and had success stopping the run, look at KC last year.

I honestly think if we don't hold their offense to under 20 points it would be a serious underacheivement.

KC had already lockd up a division championship when they were blown away up there too

And LA?...Watching him bludgeon Hovan is something Im looking forward too

Julius Jones cant be all that bad...Steven Jackson and Kevin Jones, (both available for us when we were on the clock) were both bypassed.

And its not like he's gonna be featured either..part of a RB by commitee set up like the Fecals had last year with Buckhalter, Staley and Westbrook

OK, name the last team, that didn't have to double hovan? Every team has doubled hovan for the last 2years, and now with udeze, and williams with another year of experience, you will have to double at least one of our D-lineman and probably 2 alot of the time. These doubles will free up our blitzers and force quincy to make bad quick throws. I see him throwing 2 or 3 int's against us. Also udeze will be filling in for mixon in the first 2 games of the season at LDE, so he won't be playing RDE against you guys. I am not sure who is gonna start at RDE in the first 2 games, possibly lance johnstone(10 sacks last year) or our 3rd round pick darrion scott(but he would fit better at LDE). Also expect to see us use a lot of 3-4 early in the season, when mixon is out. Ted cotrell wants to use some 3-4, with the speed and athleticism of our LB's.

As far as the game goes, I see it being a low scoring game(which would be new for us vikes), unless our d can score some for us on quincy's ints. I say we win 17-6. Your offense scares nobody, I don't care how good of a coach parcells is. You guys should be excited about henson though. He is gonna be a pretty good QB in a few years and maybe next year.