01-07-2013, 09:48 PM #11
On the back of Adrian Peterson. And that, to me, is an unsustainable condition.
Look, Chiller did that after he drafted him. He rode AP until he got Favre. He never really IMPROVED the Offense, just kept telling us that Jackson was ready to take control of the team - despite the obvious lack of truth to that statement. Meanwhile, he rode AP on the Offensive side.
Now we have a new coach, and a new OC, and the SAME STUPID PHILOSOPHY.
What happens when AP gets hurt again, or - worse - demands a trade or retires? What then? Is Ponder and that receiver corps going to make Defenses stay awake all night trying to figure out how to stop them? Is Matt Kalil going to make our Receivers run better routes or catch passes?
Sure, we won 7 more games than last year. Hell, we won 7 more games than i thought we would. But are we paving the road to success, or are we on the treadmill of predictability?
Peterson is amazing. To me he's even more amazing when you consider the fact that absolutely NO ONE thinks we're going to throw. hell, they put 8, 9, and 10 guys in the box, and AP STILL hurts them.
...and Ponder and those receivers still can't.
And until they can, this ISN'T the road to success. If we had the Defense of the 2000 Buccaneers or the 2002 ravens, then MAYBE AP on his own would be enough....but we don't.
So, again, I don't really consider this season a "success". I consider it one that exceeded expectations, but until I see us moving in a more positive direction, that's all it is.
01-08-2013, 03:28 AM #12Rookie
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What do you consider a successful season?
I say making the playoffs and playing one week longer than Da Bears is a success THIS year. Next year we need to send the Packers home. Tired of Discount Double Check Boy.None
01-08-2013, 06:21 AM #13
I don't think merely doing better than last year or exceeding what some critics expect us to do this year qualifies as a successful year.
We were 3-13 last year. many critics & fans expected us to go 4-12 to 6-10. Finishing 7-9 or 8-8 to me is still unsuccessful.
Regardless of what we did last year, making the playoffs definitely qualifies you as being successful if you are playing in a strong division. Winning your division with an 7-9 record does not. By the same token a team can finish 11-5 & still not make the playoffs.
Regardless of what we did last year, I don't look at last years record & grade the current year based on a curve. I just look at last year as being unsuccessful, wipe the slate clean & start over again the following year.
Going from a 3-10 season to an 6-10 season or even an 8-8 season, IMO, isn't success, it's simply progress on your way to one year becoming successful.
"If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"
01-08-2013, 07:59 AM #14
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Success to me is determined by were the team is going into the season.
This year we were laying the foundation for what will hopefully be the foundation of a team that can contend for years to come.
OL - Solid. Might need to look at Fusco but still solid.
DL - Issues there. Still serviceable but we need to fix the middle.
LB - Concerns at OLB and possibly MLB. I think we just need to address OLB starter and add depth.
DB's - Solid. Might need to add depth at both CB and S and possibly add another starter at FS.
WR's- Horrendous. Need complete overhaul
TE's - I like what we have. Carlson might come around as it took Shanc two years to get comfortable with the system. Still not sure why we added him as he didn't fit what Bevs was doing in Seattle so why would he work in our scheme.
FB/H-back. - Solid
RB - Solid. Can probably trade Toby and still not have worries.
QB - I like Ponder so get ready for discussion points from me all season defending him. Webb needs to go. Taking up a roster spot that we can put a old vet in or draft another kid to fill.
So, after all that, back to the question. Success this year for me was 9-7, second in the div and making it in as a wild card. Pretty high expectations for a team in a "Rebuilding Mode".
Next year the bar goes up.
I want to see more consistency from our QB.
I want to see a full compliment of WR's. Maybe Simpson back at the X, Percy at the Y and a Vet (along with a rookie) that can play the Z and another vet that can play both the Y and possibly Z.
I want to see our DB's stay healthy. To do that we need to quit putting so much on them in run support. Fix the DT position so that the LB'rs can make the tackles and let our DB's cover receivers.
And anything short of making the playoffs again next year will be considered a failure.
Not a hard plan. Spend wisely in the FA market. We have to anyways because we are low on the "You have to spend X amount" area. Resign only the Vets we really need off this roster. Let the ones go that aren't going to live out their new contract and most importantly, draft another excellent class like we did last year.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
01-08-2013, 08:33 AM #15Rookie
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Brady or Rodgers will win the Superbowl this year. Nuff said. Go look at the last 8 SB winners and tell me what they all have in common... A stud qb... You don't have one... it's all window dressing.
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01-08-2013, 12:51 PM #20Rookie
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Mannings, Rodgers, Brady, Brees... It's not coincidence... It's reality.