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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

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    why do we generate the lowest revenue?
    The stadium is filled right?
    The lease with the Metropolitan Sports Commission (MSC) gives the MSC most of the extra revenue from suite rentals, concessions, what limited parking the Dome has, etc.

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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "triedandtruevikesfan" wrote:
    why do we generate the lowest revenue?
    The stadium is filled right?
    The lease with the Metropolitan Sports Commission (MSC) gives the MSC most of the extra revenue from suite rentals, concessions, what limited parking the Dome has, etc.

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    Exactly

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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

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    I'm tired of this. The MSFC will hand the Vikings the Metrodome when the Gophers and Twins are out. That means there is no lease; Vikings will own the Stadium as of October 2009. Chill out.
    As for Los Angeles, Goodell the nut wants to expand the league with two expansions in LA and probably one in London, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver...
    Yeah, so much for the National Football league.
    I guess they will have to call it the International Football League--and if they start producing white balls with black spots on them--well, you can count me out!
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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "triedandtruevikesfan" wrote:
    why do we generate the lowest revenue?
    The stadium is filled right?
    The lease with the Metropolitan Sports Commission (MSC) gives the MSC most of the extra revenue from suite rentals, concessions, what limited parking the Dome has, etc.

    =Z=

    Exactly
    t also has a lot to do with the number of luxury seats (or lack thereof).
    Standard seats are considered part of revenue sharing in the NFL.
    Any money from it is put into a pool that is divided up equally among all teams.
    Luxury seats, like suites and club seats, do not fall into the revenue sharing category.
    The teams get to keep all the money they make from them.

    If the Vikings could get out of the crappy lease with the MSFC it would help - but not be the answer to the problem.
    Zeus wrote:
    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "triedandtruevikesfan" wrote:
    why do we generate the lowest revenue?
    The stadium is filled right?
    The lease with the Metropolitan Sports Commission (MSC) gives the MSC most of the extra revenue from suite rentals, concessions, what limited parking the Dome has, etc.
    Exactly
    t also has a lot to do with the number of luxury seats (or lack thereof).
    Standard seats are considered part of revenue sharing in the NFL.
    Any money from it is put into a pool that is divided up equally among all teams.
    Luxury seats, like suites and club seats, do not fall into the revenue sharing category.
    The teams get to keep all the money they make from them.

    If the Vikings could get out of the crappy lease with the MSFC it would help - but not be the answer to the problem.
    Yeah - but there ARE suites in the Dome that the Vikings would stand to make a huge windfall from if the MSFC wasn't part of the equation.
    Yes they're antiquated, but it's not like they don't exist.

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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "triedandtruevikesfan" wrote:
    why do we generate the lowest revenue?
    The stadium is filled right?
    The lease with the Metropolitan Sports Commission (MSC) gives the MSC most of the extra revenue from suite rentals, concessions, what limited parking the Dome has, etc.

    =Z=

    Exactly
    t also has a lot to do with the number of luxury seats (or lack thereof).
    Standard seats are considered part of revenue sharing in the NFL.
    Any money from it is put into a pool that is divided up equally among all teams.
    Luxury seats, like suites and club seats, do not fall into the revenue sharing category.
    The teams get to keep all the money they make from them.

    If the Vikings could get out of the crappy lease with the MSFC it would help - but not be the answer to the problem.
    So when everyone says the Vikings have the lowest revenue that is not really true? They just have the lowest luxury suit level? To me that is just a large corporation(the nfl) cooking the books in order to get the government to contribute to a stadium. They have been doing this for a long time and the nfl has successfully convinced politicians to subsidize their already very profitable operations.
    The Vikings are looking for a bailout, don't go complaining about bailouts to the auto, airline and banking industries and then support this bailout, they are the same thing except the NFL
    planned it all along, and is in no financial trouble.

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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "triedandtruevikesfan" wrote:
    why do we generate the lowest revenue?
    The stadium is filled right?
    The lease with the Metropolitan Sports Commission (MSC) gives the MSC most of the extra revenue from suite rentals, concessions, what limited parking the Dome has, etc.

    =Z=

    Exactly
    t also has a lot to do with the number of luxury seats (or lack thereof).
    Standard seats are considered part of revenue sharing in the NFL.
    Any money from it is put into a pool that is divided up equally among all teams.
    Luxury seats, like suites and club seats, do not fall into the revenue sharing category.
    The teams get to keep all the money they make from them.

    If the Vikings could get out of the crappy lease with the MSFC it would help - but not be the answer to the problem.
    So when everyone says the Vikings have the lowest revenue that is not really true? They just have the lowest luxury suit level? To me that is just a large corporation(the nfl) cooking the books in order to get the government to contribute to a stadium. They have been doing this for a long time and the nfl has successfully convinced politicians to subsidize their already very profitable operations.
    The Vikings are looking for a bailout, don't go complaining about bailouts to the auto, airline and banking industries and then support this bailout, they are the same thing except the NFL
    planned it all along, and is in no financial trouble.
    Sounds like smart business to me.
    In order to make money you've got to take advantage where you can...grab the man by the ball-sack and let the greed be known.
    Everyone wants a piece of the pie. That's how the rich get richer, and it's methods similar to these that probably made their wealth in the first place.
    (generalizing, not NFL specific).
    Call it the American dream.

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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    [quote author=triedandtruevikesfan link=topic=48760.msg857903#msg857903 date=1225044224]
    why do we generate the lowest revenue?
    The stadium is filled right?
    The lease with the Metropolitan Sports Commission (MSC) gives the MSC most of the extra revenue from suite rentals, concessions, what limited parking the Dome has, etc.

    =Z=

    Exactly
    t also has a lot to do with the number of luxury seats (or lack thereof).
    Standard seats are considered part of revenue sharing in the NFL.
    Any money from it is put into a pool that is divided up equally among all teams.
    Luxury seats, like suites and club seats, do not fall into the revenue sharing category.
    The teams get to keep all the money they make from them.

    If the Vikings could get out of the crappy lease with the MSFC it would help - but not be the answer to the problem.
    So when everyone says the Vikings have the lowest revenue that is not really true? They just have the lowest luxury suit level? To me that is just a large corporation(the nfl) cooking the books in order to get the government to contribute to a stadium. They have been doing this for a long time and the nfl has successfully convinced politicians to subsidize their already very profitable operations.
    The Vikings are looking for a bailout, don't go complaining about bailouts to the auto, airline and banking industries and then support this bailout, they are the same thing except the NFL
    planned it all along, and is in no financial trouble.
    Sounds like smart business to me.
    In order to make money you've got to take advantage where you can...grab the man by the ball-sack and let the greed be known.
    Everyone wants a piece of the pie. That's how the rich get richer, and it's methods similar to these that probably made their wealth in the first place.
    (generalizing, not NFL specific).
    Call it the American dream.
    [/quote]
    It worked for this yutz.
    :'(
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/bush/timeline.html

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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    [quote author=Zeus link=topic=48760.msg858163#msg858163 date=1225111568]
    [quote author=triedandtruevikesfan link=topic=48760.msg857903#msg857903 date=1225044224]
    why do we generate the lowest revenue?
    The stadium is filled right?
    The lease with the Metropolitan Sports Commission (MSC) gives the MSC most of the extra revenue from suite rentals, concessions, what limited parking the Dome has, etc.

    =Z=

    Exactly
    t also has a lot to do with the number of luxury seats (or lack thereof).
    Standard seats are considered part of revenue sharing in the NFL.
    Any money from it is put into a pool that is divided up equally among all teams.
    Luxury seats, like suites and club seats, do not fall into the revenue sharing category.
    The teams get to keep all the money they make from them.

    If the Vikings could get out of the crappy lease with the MSFC it would help - but not be the answer to the problem.
    So when everyone says the Vikings have the lowest revenue that is not really true? They just have the lowest luxury suit level? To me that is just a large corporation(the nfl) cooking the books in order to get the government to contribute to a stadium. They have been doing this for a long time and the nfl has successfully convinced politicians to subsidize their already very profitable operations.
    The Vikings are looking for a bailout, don't go complaining about bailouts to the auto, airline and banking industries and then support this bailout, they are the same thing except the NFL
    planned it all along, and is in no financial trouble.
    Sounds like smart business to me.
    In order to make money you've got to take advantage where you can...grab the man by the ball-sack and let the greed be known.
    Everyone wants a piece of the pie. That's how the rich get richer, and it's methods similar to these that probably made their wealth in the first place.
    (generalizing, not NFL specific).
    Call it the American dream.
    [/quote]
    It worked for this yutz.
    :'(
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/bush/timeline.html
    [/quote]

    Call him a yutz if you want...he (or his political connections surrounding him) found a way to make easy millions.


    There are reasons why you and I are blue collar shmucks and others like Wilf and Bush make the big bucks.
    You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.
    Not too many regular Joes get rich.
    You need connections and in most cases political influence.

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    Re: Wait for funding could force Vikes out of Minnesota

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    [quote author=UffDaVikes link=topic=48760.msg858198#msg858198 date=1225122091]
    [quote author=Zeus link=topic=48760.msg858163#msg858163 date=1225111568]
    [quote author=triedandtruevikesfan link=topic=48760.msg857903#msg857903 date=1225044224]
    why do we generate the lowest revenue?
    The stadium is filled right?
    The lease with the Metropolitan Sports Commission (MSC) gives the MSC most of the extra revenue from suite rentals, concessions, what limited parking the Dome has, etc.

    =Z=

    Exactly
    t also has a lot to do with the number of luxury seats (or lack thereof).
    Standard seats are considered part of revenue sharing in the NFL.
    Any money from it is put into a pool that is divided up equally among all teams.
    Luxury seats, like suites and club seats, do not fall into the revenue sharing category.
    The teams get to keep all the money they make from them.

    If the Vikings could get out of the crappy lease with the MSFC it would help - but not be the answer to the problem.
    So when everyone says the Vikings have the lowest revenue that is not really true? They just have the lowest luxury suit level? To me that is just a large corporation(the nfl) cooking the books in order to get the government to contribute to a stadium. They have been doing this for a long time and the nfl has successfully convinced politicians to subsidize their already very profitable operations.
    The Vikings are looking for a bailout, don't go complaining about bailouts to the auto, airline and banking industries and then support this bailout, they are the same thing except the NFL
    planned it all along, and is in no financial trouble.
    Sounds like smart business to me.
    In order to make money you've got to take advantage where you can...grab the man by the ball-sack and let the greed be known.
    Everyone wants a piece of the pie. That's how the rich get richer, and it's methods similar to these that probably made their wealth in the first place.
    (generalizing, not NFL specific).
    Call it the American dream.
    [/quote]
    It worked for this yutz.
    :'(
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/bush/timeline.html
    [/quote]

    Call him a yutz if you want...he (or his political connections surrounding him) found a way to make easy millions.


    There are reasons why you and I are blue collar shmucks and others like Wilf and Bush make the big bucks.
    You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.
    Not too many regular Joes get rich.
    You need connections and in most cases political influence.
    [/quote]
    I agree completely. Hopefully Minnesota can lead the way in stopping this form of corruption.

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