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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    True, the receivers have dropped catchable balls, but a receiver has to be fired up to make the catches. To have that desire to want to make the catches. Now obviously us fans think that the huge money these guys get paid should be incentive enough... but the fact is, it's not. English Football (Soccer to you across the pond) is the same... lots of people getting paid truckloads of cash who just don't step up and perform. A professional athlete needs something more. In soccer, it's an inspirational manager or a great tactician on the sidelines... for receivers in the NFL, it has to be an accurate and, more importantly I feel, a charismatic QB.

    I saw TJack in a post game interview. He seemed dazed and slightly cowed by it all. Now put yourself in the boots of a receiver. If you're running out there in the backfield, and you know this is the guy you have behind Centre (or more realistically, this is the guy who has rolled out right), it's going to knock your confidence. And that, I think, affects your catching ability.

    Like I said, no excuses. But this is a team game... one affects the other.

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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    Shiancoe couldn't catch the clap from Paris Hilton.
    He is WORTHLESS.

    We wouldn't be talking about Tarvaris Jackson this week if he had caught that very catchable pass.


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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    sure it was a tough catch but he drop passes on a consistent basis,in his 2nd year now and i recall him droppng at least 4 sure td's in the endzone already not to mention all the routine passes that have been dropped.so far this year he has drops in both games one of wich should have been a td

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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    the ball was IN in arms, there is no reason he shouldnt hold on to it.
    He catches with his arms and body not his hands and thats why he has drops.
    Deactivate him for this week

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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    sucks.
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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    I'll stick up for Shiancoe a little bit, he doesn't drop EVERYTHING.
    He does catch the ball, contrary to popular belief.

    Thanks to marstc09 (and others) for the link earlier, kinda helped me temper my opinion on him a bit:
    http://sports.aol.com/nfl-players/vi...og&season=2007
    Not outstanding numbers by any means, but he does make catches.

    That being said, he has "crapped the bed" on several occasions with dropped touchdowns or big gains.
    You just can't depend on him right now for that "big play".

    Poor TE play overall usually does not bode well for developing QBs that need that "nookie blankie" dumpoff pass when the pressure is on, or to simply help him get in a rhythm on a long drive for a TD.

    IMO, his performance as of late does not warrant a starting position on this offense, I wouldn't mind seeing Mills or Kleinsasser in the main TE role for the Carolina game.
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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    Stanko is just another example of bad personnel moves(see Artis Hicks,Billy Mcmullin,B.Berian??T-Jack etc.) made by Childress...A difficult catch my ass...A difficult catch for him, is anything that hits him in the hands.

    Stanko keeps starting because Chili doesn't wanna admit that he fucked it up again signing this bum.

    I was hoping I wouldn't have to say this but...






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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    "NordicNed" wrote:
    To begin with, not a great pass, it was more on his hip.
    Shanko did almost get it into his gut and controll it, but that was followed by a very hard landing and the arm and part of the ball hitting the turf. This knocked the ball loss, much like a catch and then a defender hitting the ball dead on with his helmet. That would be a called
    a fumble, where as what happened to shank was the hard landing and turf knocked it lose. Conclusion for me, it was a very tough pass to catch and turn into a reception. Possible ?
    Yes.
    Supprised it got knocked lose, not at all.

    Shanco had a good game overall I thought. I wouldn't put the loss on his shoulders at all.
    It was not an easy ball, but the coverage on Shiancoe dictated that the pass had to be wide. Shiancoe layed out for the ball, and let the ball get through his arms. You could see from the reverse angle that he had the ball pinned to his chest/stomach by his elbow. He never had control of the ball, and there was no way he could bring it under control once he let the ball get past his hands. If he had at least gotten his hands on the ball, even if he still dropped it, I wouldn't be as upset with him. He's there to be our pass catching tight end, and the best he can do is an elbow? I am firmly on the Mills bandwagon.

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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    "BBQ" wrote:
    Shiancoe couldn't catch the clap from Paris Hilton.
    He is WORTHLESS.

    We wouldn't be talking about Tarvaris Jackson this week if he had caught that very catchable pass.
    Exactly... Thank you!

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    Re: Visanthe Shiancoe

    "C" wrote:
    "BBQ" wrote:
    Shiancoe couldn't catch the clap from Paris Hilton.
    He is WORTHLESS.

    We wouldn't be talking about Tarvaris Jackson this week if he had caught that very catchable pass.
    Exactly... Thank you!

    Jackson isn't the problem.
    I hope you are not stating his post warrants your fire Childress theme.
    All he stated was if Shiancoe caught the ball we wouldn't be having the TJ hate posts this week.

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