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    Re: Vikings - You ask and I try to answer

    "Bkfldviking" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=45377.msg788046#msg788046 date=1212506096]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg788041#msg788041 date=1212505524]
    [quote author=VikingsTw link=topic=45377.msg787804#msg787804 date=1212454448]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg787690#msg787690 date=1212445005]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg786822#msg786822 date=1212249543]
    Visanthe Shiancoe, who had a disappointing first season with the Vikings after being signed as a free agent, made some nice catches over the middle but struggled to hold onto the ball at times after running shorter patterns. On Wednesday, I had him with three drops.
    Not good. What are the chances of landing Travis Beckum next year?
    Don't tell Marr this. He think Shank will suddenly get a hands transplant and turn into Gates.
    The guy cannot catch!!!!
    I would have to argue that, I've seen Shanc make some impressive catches since being here in Minny, he had a couple drops on National Telivision for everyone to see and people feel he's complete garbage, granted thats a bad time to drop a pass I'll give him another year, he also fumbled his only ball away in that same game. His best games were with Holcomb at QB. This tells me Tarvaris needs to get better at utilizing the TE.

    I read somwhere that he had 3 drops in OTA's in a hurry, I don't like this but I also don't know how solid the source is. IMO he's a very sound blocker and he's our biggest threat at TE. We must feel somewhat comfortable with what we have, not one TE was brought in this offseason.
    Just because we "feel comfortabel" doesn't make him good. He is a decnt athletic TE who is solid at blocking. He has suspect hands and i predict we will see that more this year. I've known he sucked before his time on this team. I watch Giants games : (
    I believe he dropped more passes than twill last year. That's saying something.
    (sorry no link).
    All I could find is that none of them had more than 5, which is not that bad.

    http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html
    [/quote]

    Also found this list.

    http://realfootball365.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFC&rank=23 2
    [/quote]

    Interesting. Shaincoe had a 63% and Williamson had a 47%.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te.php
    [/quote]


    Williamson only made one play for us last year.
    Shank made a few circus grabs.
    While neither player did anything special, Shanko does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Williamson.
    [/quote]

    I'm old so the memory is a little hazy, but didn't Kliensauser have a couple TDs and a couple 1st downs WITHOUT dropping the ball.
    Granted, not much for YAC but catching the ball at the right place makes up for it. ;D
    [/quote]

    Sasser had some key drops and fumbles back when he was the main TE too.

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    Re: Vikings - You ask and I try to answer

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Bkfldviking" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg788069#msg788069 date=1212511057]
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=45377.msg788046#msg788046 date=1212506096]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg788041#msg788041 date=1212505524]
    [quote author=VikingsTw link=topic=45377.msg787804#msg787804 date=1212454448]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg787690#msg787690 date=1212445005]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg786822#msg786822 date=1212249543]
    Visanthe Shiancoe, who had a disappointing first season with the Vikings after being signed as a free agent, made some nice catches over the middle but struggled to hold onto the ball at times after running shorter patterns. On Wednesday, I had him with three drops.
    Not good. What are the chances of landing Travis Beckum next year?
    Don't tell Marr this. He think Shank will suddenly get a hands transplant and turn into Gates.
    The guy cannot catch!!!!
    I would have to argue that, I've seen Shanc make some impressive catches since being here in Minny, he had a couple drops on National Telivision for everyone to see and people feel he's complete garbage, granted thats a bad time to drop a pass I'll give him another year, he also fumbled his only ball away in that same game. His best games were with Holcomb at QB. This tells me Tarvaris needs to get better at utilizing the TE.

    I read somwhere that he had 3 drops in OTA's in a hurry, I don't like this but I also don't know how solid the source is. IMO he's a very sound blocker and he's our biggest threat at TE. We must feel somewhat comfortable with what we have, not one TE was brought in this offseason.
    Just because we "feel comfortabel" doesn't make him good. He is a decnt athletic TE who is solid at blocking. He has suspect hands and i predict we will see that more this year. I've known he sucked before his time on this team. I watch Giants games : (
    I believe he dropped more passes than twill last year. That's saying something.
    (sorry no link).
    All I could find is that none of them had more than 5, which is not that bad.

    http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html
    [/quote]

    Also found this list.

    http://realfootball365.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFC&rank=23 2
    [/quote]

    Interesting. Shaincoe had a 63% and Williamson had a 47%.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te.php
    [/quote]


    Williamson only made one play for us last year.
    Shank made a few circus grabs.
    While neither player did anything special, Shanko does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Williamson.
    [/quote]

    I'm old so the memory is a little hazy, but didn't Kliensauser have a couple TDs and a couple 1st downs WITHOUT dropping the ball.
    Granted, not much for YAC but catching the ball at the right place makes up for it. ;D
    [/quote]

    Sasser had some key drops and fumbles back when he was the main TE too.
    [/quote]
    Wiggins never dropped a ball.

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    Re: Vikings - You ask and I try to answer

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg788041#msg788041 date=1212505524]
    [quote author=VikingsTw link=topic=45377.msg787804#msg787804 date=1212454448]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg787690#msg787690 date=1212445005]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg786822#msg786822 date=1212249543]
    Visanthe Shiancoe, who had a disappointing first season with the Vikings after being signed as a free agent, made some nice catches over the middle but struggled to hold onto the ball at times after running shorter patterns. On Wednesday, I had him with three drops.
    Not good. What are the chances of landing Travis Beckum next year?
    Don't tell Marr this. He think Shank will suddenly get a hands transplant and turn into Gates.
    The guy cannot catch!!!!
    I would have to argue that, I've seen Shanc make some impressive catches since being here in Minny, he had a couple drops on National Telivision for everyone to see and people feel he's complete garbage, granted thats a bad time to drop a pass I'll give him another year, he also fumbled his only ball away in that same game. His best games were with Holcomb at QB. This tells me Tarvaris needs to get better at utilizing the TE.

    I read somwhere that he had 3 drops in OTA's in a hurry, I don't like this but I also don't know how solid the source is. IMO he's a very sound blocker and he's our biggest threat at TE. We must feel somewhat comfortable with what we have, not one TE was brought in this offseason.
    Just because we "feel comfortabel" doesn't make him good. He is a decnt athletic TE who is solid at blocking. He has suspect hands and i predict we will see that more this year. I've known he sucked before his time on this team. I watch Giants games : (
    I believe he dropped more passes than twill last year. That's saying something.
    (sorry no link).
    All I could find is that none of them had more than 5, which is not that bad.

    http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html
    [/quote]

    Also found this list.

    http://realfootball365.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFC&rank=23 2
    [/quote]

    Interesting. Shaincoe had a 63% and Williamson had a 47%.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te.php
    [/quote]

    Found it!

    Shiancoe 2 drops vs Williamson 4 drops

    http://sports.aol.com/nfl-players/visanthe-shiancoe/6427

    http://sports.aol.com/nfl-players/troy-williamson/7183?selectedTab=snapshot
    [/quote]

    2 whole drops wow. I bet one of those drops was the TD pass he caught from Mewelde that the refs ruled a drop! So if Shancoe caught 27 balls and dropped 2 he's catching 93% of his passes while dropping 7%. IMO he's doin alright, he had one bad game against the Washington Redskins to go along with the rest of team and we still kept it close.

    If Shancoe can come down with 35 to 45 catches this season that will be plenty, he's a key part to a solid running game, he is paid well because he is the most versatle TE we have.

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    Re: Vikings - You ask and I try to answer

    "VikingsTw" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=45377.msg788046#msg788046 date=1212506096]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg788041#msg788041 date=1212505524]
    [quote author=VikingsTw link=topic=45377.msg787804#msg787804 date=1212454448]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg787690#msg787690 date=1212445005]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg786822#msg786822 date=1212249543]
    Visanthe Shiancoe, who had a disappointing first season with the Vikings after being signed as a free agent, made some nice catches over the middle but struggled to hold onto the ball at times after running shorter patterns. On Wednesday, I had him with three drops.
    Not good. What are the chances of landing Travis Beckum next year?
    Don't tell Marr this. He think Shank will suddenly get a hands transplant and turn into Gates.
    The guy cannot catch!!!!
    I would have to argue that, I've seen Shanc make some impressive catches since being here in Minny, he had a couple drops on National Telivision for everyone to see and people feel he's complete garbage, granted thats a bad time to drop a pass I'll give him another year, he also fumbled his only ball away in that same game. His best games were with Holcomb at QB. This tells me Tarvaris needs to get better at utilizing the TE.

    I read somwhere that he had 3 drops in OTA's in a hurry, I don't like this but I also don't know how solid the source is. IMO he's a very sound blocker and he's our biggest threat at TE. We must feel somewhat comfortable with what we have, not one TE was brought in this offseason.
    Just because we "feel comfortabel" doesn't make him good. He is a decnt athletic TE who is solid at blocking. He has suspect hands and i predict we will see that more this year. I've known he sucked before his time on this team. I watch Giants games : (
    I believe he dropped more passes than twill last year. That's saying something.
    (sorry no link).
    All I could find is that none of them had more than 5, which is not that bad.

    http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html
    [/quote]

    Also found this list.

    http://realfootball365.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFC&rank=23 2
    [/quote]

    Interesting. Shaincoe had a 63% and Williamson had a 47%.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te.php
    [/quote]

    Found it!

    Shiancoe 2 drops vs Williamson 4 drops

    http://sports.aol.com/nfl-players/visanthe-shiancoe/6427

    http://sports.aol.com/nfl-players/troy-williamson/7183?selectedTab=snapshot
    [/quote]

    2 whole drops wow. I bet one of those drops was the TD pass he caught from Mewelde that the refs ruled a drop! So if Shancoe caught 27 balls and dropped 2 he's catching 93% of his passes while dropping 7%. IMO he's doin alright, he had one bad game against the Washington Redskins to go along with the rest of team and we still kept it close.

    If Shancoe can come down with 35 to 45 catches this season that will be plenty, he's a key part to a solid running game, he is paid well because he is the most versatle TE we have.
    [/quote]

    I think that is what Marrdro is trying to stress. Also I have defended Shank as well. The guy will be on the team and deserves a shot to be that guy. We just need to use him more in the passing gme.

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    Re: Vikings - You ask and I try to answer

    "midgensa" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    I know Sidney Rice had a solid rookie season and led the Vikings with four touchdown catches, but I think he also could be in for a very good year. Rice has added about 8 pounds to his 6-4 frame. The thing about Rice is he’s the anti-Troy Williamson. Williamson just never looked comfortable attempting to catch the ball. Rice, on the other hand, often makes catching passes look easy. The Vikings decision to take Rice in the second round of the 2007 draft over USC’s Dwayne Jarrett should continue to look very good this season.
    Soooo happy to read that!

    Yeah ... I remember right after the season that about 50 people around here were saying how we HAD to take Jarrett at No. 7 ... just one of those things you remember for a while because it reminds you why we aren't all scouts or GMs
    ;D
    Yeah I will admit that I thought Jarrett would've been a good pick at the time, but that was only because most the analysts had us picking Ginn.
    Which even now that would've been waaay better than Jarrett.
    BTW this was all assuming that AD would never fall in our laps and going off the rumor that we were going WR in the first.

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    Re: Vikings - You ask and I try to answer

    "VikingsTw" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=45377.msg788046#msg788046 date=1212506096]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg788041#msg788041 date=1212505524]
    [quote author=VikingsTw link=topic=45377.msg787804#msg787804 date=1212454448]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg787690#msg787690 date=1212445005]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg786822#msg786822 date=1212249543]
    Visanthe Shiancoe, who had a disappointing first season with the Vikings after being signed as a free agent, made some nice catches over the middle but struggled to hold onto the ball at times after running shorter patterns. On Wednesday, I had him with three drops.
    Not good. What are the chances of landing Travis Beckum next year?
    Don't tell Marr this. He think Shank will suddenly get a hands transplant and turn into Gates.
    The guy cannot catch!!!!
    I would have to argue that, I've seen Shanc make some impressive catches since being here in Minny, he had a couple drops on National Telivision for everyone to see and people feel he's complete garbage, granted thats a bad time to drop a pass I'll give him another year, he also fumbled his only ball away in that same game. His best games were with Holcomb at QB. This tells me Tarvaris needs to get better at utilizing the TE.

    I read somwhere that he had 3 drops in OTA's in a hurry, I don't like this but I also don't know how solid the source is. IMO he's a very sound blocker and he's our biggest threat at TE. We must feel somewhat comfortable with what we have, not one TE was brought in this offseason.
    Just because we "feel comfortabel" doesn't make him good. He is a decnt athletic TE who is solid at blocking. He has suspect hands and i predict we will see that more this year. I've known he sucked before his time on this team. I watch Giants games : (
    I believe he dropped more passes than twill last year. That's saying something.
    (sorry no link).
    All I could find is that none of them had more than 5, which is not that bad.

    http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html
    [/quote]

    Also found this list.

    http://realfootball365.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFC&rank=23 2
    [/quote]

    Interesting. Shaincoe had a 63% and Williamson had a 47%.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te.php
    [/quote]

    Found it!

    Shiancoe 2 drops vs Williamson 4 drops

    http://sports.aol.com/nfl-players/visanthe-shiancoe/6427

    http://sports.aol.com/nfl-players/troy-williamson/7183?selectedTab=snapshot
    [/quote]

    2 whole drops wow. I bet one of those drops was the TD pass he caught from Mewelde that the refs ruled a drop! So if Shancoe caught 27 balls and dropped 2 he's catching 93% of his passes while dropping 7%. IMO he's doin alright, he had one bad game against the Washington Redskins to go along with the rest of team and we still kept it close.

    If Shancoe can come down with 35 to 45 catches this season that will be plenty, he's a key part to a solid running game, he is paid well because he is the most versatle TE we have.
    [/quote]

    LOl..that seals it...Heck since he is the best we have, he must be fine
    :
    I wonder why we went after BB. heck Wade was the best we had and he's fine. Why did we draft a young saftey? Heck Sharper was the best we had. My point if it's not clear is, who you have on the roster means nothing. We are talking about are they good enoug to be considered a starter? The answer is obvious.

    We have conflicting information. 1 site says something else. However, you can choose to listen to AOl sports if you like. The same site that doesn't have his career stats lol....
    : :


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    Re: Vikings - You ask and I try to answer

    "kevoncox" wrote:
    "VikingsTw" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg788069#msg788069 date=1212511057]
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=45377.msg788046#msg788046 date=1212506096]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg788041#msg788041 date=1212505524]
    [quote author=VikingsTw link=topic=45377.msg787804#msg787804 date=1212454448]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg787690#msg787690 date=1212445005]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg786822#msg786822 date=1212249543]
    Visanthe Shiancoe, who had a disappointing first season with the Vikings after being signed as a free agent, made some nice catches over the middle but struggled to hold onto the ball at times after running shorter patterns. On Wednesday, I had him with three drops.
    Not good. What are the chances of landing Travis Beckum next year?
    Don't tell Marr this. He think Shank will suddenly get a hands transplant and turn into Gates.
    The guy cannot catch!!!!
    I would have to argue that, I've seen Shanc make some impressive catches since being here in Minny, he had a couple drops on National Telivision for everyone to see and people feel he's complete garbage, granted thats a bad time to drop a pass I'll give him another year, he also fumbled his only ball away in that same game. His best games were with Holcomb at QB. This tells me Tarvaris needs to get better at utilizing the TE.

    I read somwhere that he had 3 drops in OTA's in a hurry, I don't like this but I also don't know how solid the source is. IMO he's a very sound blocker and he's our biggest threat at TE. We must feel somewhat comfortable with what we have, not one TE was brought in this offseason.
    Just because we "feel comfortabel" doesn't make him good. He is a decnt athletic TE who is solid at blocking. He has suspect hands and i predict we will see that more this year. I've known he sucked before his time on this team. I watch Giants games : (
    I believe he dropped more passes than twill last year. That's saying something.
    (sorry no link).
    All I could find is that none of them had more than 5, which is not that bad.

    http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html
    [/quote]

    Also found this list.

    http://realfootball365.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFC&rank=23 2
    [/quote]

    Interesting. Shaincoe had a 63% and Williamson had a 47%.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te.php
    [/quote]

    Found it!

    Shiancoe 2 drops vs Williamson 4 drops

    http://sports.aol.com/nfl-players/visanthe-shiancoe/6427

    http://sports.aol.com/nfl-players/troy-williamson/7183?selectedTab=snapshot
    [/quote]

    2 whole drops wow. I bet one of those drops was the TD pass he caught from Mewelde that the refs ruled a drop! So if Shancoe caught 27 balls and dropped 2 he's catching 93% of his passes while dropping 7%. IMO he's doin alright, he had one bad game against the Washington Redskins to go along with the rest of team and we still kept it close.

    If Shancoe can come down with 35 to 45 catches this season that will be plenty, he's a key part to a solid running game, he is paid well because he is the most versatle TE we have.
    [/quote]

    LOl..that seals it...Heck since he is the best we have, he must be fine
    :
    I wonder why we went after BB. heck Wade was the best we had and he's fine. Why did we draft a young saftey? Heck Sharper was the best we had. My point if it's not clear is, who you have on the roster means nothing. We are talking about are they good enoug to be considered a starter? The answer is obvious.

    We have conflicting information. 1 site says something else. However, you can choose to listen to AOl sports if you like. The same site that doesn't have his career stats lol....
    : :


    [/quote]

    Conflicting info????? One site does not even list Shank with the group that has 6 drops. He obviously had less than 6. The other says he has 2 drops. What the hell are you talking about? There was nothing wrong with his play last year. It is not his fault he wasn't used.

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    Re: Vikings - You ask and I try to answer

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Bkfldviking" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg788071#msg788071 date=1212511304]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg788069#msg788069 date=1212511057]
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=45377.msg788046#msg788046 date=1212506096]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg788041#msg788041 date=1212505524]
    [quote author=VikingsTw link=topic=45377.msg787804#msg787804 date=1212454448]
    [quote author=kevoncox link=topic=45377.msg787690#msg787690 date=1212445005]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=45377.msg786822#msg786822 date=1212249543]
    Visanthe Shiancoe, who had a disappointing first season with the Vikings after being signed as a free agent, made some nice catches over the middle but struggled to hold onto the ball at times after running shorter patterns. On Wednesday, I had him with three drops.
    Not good. What are the chances of landing Travis Beckum next year?
    Don't tell Marr this. He think Shank will suddenly get a hands transplant and turn into Gates.
    The guy cannot catch!!!!
    I would have to argue that, I've seen Shanc make some impressive catches since being here in Minny, he had a couple drops on National Telivision for everyone to see and people feel he's complete garbage, granted thats a bad time to drop a pass I'll give him another year, he also fumbled his only ball away in that same game. His best games were with Holcomb at QB. This tells me Tarvaris needs to get better at utilizing the TE.

    I read somwhere that he had 3 drops in OTA's in a hurry, I don't like this but I also don't know how solid the source is. IMO he's a very sound blocker and he's our biggest threat at TE. We must feel somewhat comfortable with what we have, not one TE was brought in this offseason.
    Just because we "feel comfortabel" doesn't make him good. He is a decnt athletic TE who is solid at blocking. He has suspect hands and i predict we will see that more this year. I've known he sucked before his time on this team. I watch Giants games : (
    I believe he dropped more passes than twill last year. That's saying something.
    (sorry no link).
    All I could find is that none of them had more than 5, which is not that bad.

    http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html
    [/quote]

    Also found this list.

    http://realfootball365.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFC&rank=23 2
    [/quote]

    Interesting. Shaincoe had a 63% and Williamson had a 47%.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te.php
    [/quote]


    Williamson only made one play for us last year.
    Shank made a few circus grabs.
    While neither player did anything special, Shanko does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Williamson.
    [/quote]

    I'm old so the memory is a little hazy, but didn't Kliensauser have a couple TDs and a couple 1st downs WITHOUT dropping the ball.
    Granted, not much for YAC but catching the ball at the right place makes up for it. ;D
    [/quote]

    Sasser had some key drops and fumbles back when he was the main TE too.
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    Wiggins never dropped a ball.
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    Sure he didn't...
    :
    Not our man love tight end who is so good he doesn't even play in the NFL anymore.

    He did have good hands though.

    Didn't he drop a game winner during a 2004 game against Seattle?

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    Yeah... great point. Why isn't Kliensauser on the field more for our offense? He can block and catch... not to mention he's a truck and can run people over. Pull Shank and get Jimmy K back out there.

    Yeah...Idk why we don't use him as a reciever in the red zone more often. :'(

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    Re: Vikings - You ask and I try to answer

    "Chazz" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    Yeah... great point. Why isn't Kliensauser on the field more for our offense? He can block and catch... not to mention he's a truck and can run people over. Pull Shank and get Jimmy K back out there.

    Yeah...Idk why we don't use him as a reciever in the red zone more often. :'(
    Because Tarvaris is better at running for TDs than passing for them.


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