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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myzT8aZrgxg

    Pretty impressive hitting 10 of 10 on the run, and the touch on the 20 yard pass in the wind. He looked good in his bowl game too, and against a higher ranked team.

    I think we already know we'll take this guy if he's there at 8. He seems the perfect fit for Turner's offense.

    The talk about Manziel might have been smokescreen too...he has a legit gift of elusiveness and did complete more long passes than any of the other top 4 QBs. We'd at least consider him at 8 too. Specially assuming Clowney, Mack, Watkins and likely Evans as well are gone by then.

    I also wonder how much of the Bridgewater falling to the 4th round is teams hoping he'll be there for them earlier...
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    Watch "Caught in the Draft 1994", Turner had just made the move from the Cowboys to the Redskins. Everyone expected him to go Trent Dilfer (the big prototypical QB), but he picked Heth Schuler instead (6'2") do to Schuler's mobility in the backfield.

    I then looked up the scouting report on Schuler, and if Turner repeats this type of move, I think Bridgewater ranks higher than Bortles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewlovs View Post
    Watch "Caught in the Draft 1994", Turner had just made the move from the Cowboys to the Redskins. Everyone expected him to go Trent Dilfer (the big prototypical QB), but he picked Heath Shuler instead (6'2") do to Shuler's mobility in the backfield.

    I then looked up the scouting report on Shuler, and if Turner repeats this type of move, I think Bridgewater ranks higher than Bortles.
    I don't think so. I think most rate Bortles as more mobile than Bridgewater. Most talk about Bridgewater just sitting there in the pocket and not flinching ... which is also a good thing.

    I think that Norv definitely has his eyes on one of these four QBs (Carr in the mix as well) and that the Mettenberger talk is a smokescreen to keep others from trading in front of us.

    I don't care who we get, honestly. I just want the position addressed. Sometimes you swing and miss ... but if you don't swing you leave it all up to the umpire.

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    I really wanted to make the point for Manziel, but I didn't want to sound like a broken record... lol. Serves me right for writing a sentence for one player then just switching names.

    What jumped out at me was if Turner took Schuler at 6'2" due to his mobility, Manziel is DEFINITELY still in the picture for Norv.
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    Vikings Won’t Visit Bortles

    Bortles played in a weak conference and tha vikings should focus on d and draft a late QB like Logan Thomas he would be a nice project for Turner to wrk wit and Turner say he like da QB frm West Virginia Tech to

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313zoe View Post
    Bortles played in a weak conference and tha vikings should focus on d and draft a late QB like Logan Thomas he would be a nice project for Turner to wrk wit and Turner say he like da QB frm West Virginia Tech to
    At this point for QBs, I do not think the type of conference Bortles played in will make one whit of difference, that has been dealt with and worked into the equation a LONG time ago.

    As far as project QBs, this draft has quite a few, from Savage to McCarron. If the Vikings are not sold on the top 3 (maybe TWO by now) QBs, we will either be going defense or (more likely) trading down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewlovs View Post
    Watch "Caught in the Draft 1994", Turner had just made the move from the Cowboys to the Redskins. Everyone expected him to go Trent Dilfer (the big prototypical QB), but he picked Heth Schuler instead (6'2") do to Schuler's mobility in the backfield.

    I then looked up the scouting report on Schuler, and if Turner repeats this type of move, I think Bridgewater ranks higher than Bortles.
    If Norv's choice (if it's Norv's choice to begin with) pans out like his Schuler pick did, we'll have yet another bust QB. Schuler is another example that shows Turner is not this QB Guru many think he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    If Norv's choice (if it's Norv's choice to begin with) pans out like his Schuler pick did, we'll have yet another bust QB. Schuler is another example that shows Turner is not this QB Guru many think he is.
    Dilfer was the other choice; neither worked out, really. Dilfer 2.0 as a game manager allowed a great defense to win the super bowl, but Dilfer the rookie that was drafted was a bust.

    Schuler had his confidence destroyed, he was drafted too high...I remember watching him, and seeing a Jeckell & Hyde sort of QB. I wonder if things would have been different if he had had a Cassel in front of him to give him a year to get the maturity the position requires.

    I don't disagree the Schuler pick is not a great pick with 20/20 vision, but I'm not prepared to hang it around Turner's neck as proof he can't pick QBs.
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