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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrdro View Post
    So do you think he can improve on his accuracy or do you believe he will always be inaccurate?


    Kindof a short window to figure out if a QB is going to pan out don't ya think? Another question, what do you count as a measuring stick for "Elevating"?

    You see how much higher Ponder was in 3rd down accuracy mixed in with his rating vs all the QB's in the league last year in the red zone (14% higer than the closest QB)?

    Everyone of us saw some good stuff of things to come during that PUKER game......

    Why The Numbers Don't Tell The Full Story Of Christian Ponder's Debut - Daily Norseman

    ......I can't believe there is anyone on this site that doesn't think Ponder is the future.

    Get the kid some recievers to throw to other than Percy, a play caller who knows a play other than a 2-3 or 2-2 set and Ponder will be fine my friend.
    Don't think I ever said Ponder wasn't our future or to start Webb over him. Think you might be reading a little too much into it.

    I mean ... we could start 0-6 with Ponder hovering around 75 rating and keep him in instead of going to Webb just because apparently it takes 45 games or so to adequately judge a QB. We did it with Jackson for a few years and it won us a bunch of Super Bowls.

    Some QBs you can tell are good even when they are struggling (Peyton Manning early in his career, Matt Stafford early on) ... some you can just tell aren't (Ryan Leaf, Dan McGwire and Tim Couch for example ... or Joey Harrington who still got a shitload of opportunities for some reason). If we are 0-6 and Ponder is not looking good, there is NO reason not to give Webb the rest of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    Don't think I ever said Ponder wasn't our future or to start Webb over him. Think you might be reading a little too much into it.

    I mean ... we could start 0-6 with Ponder hovering around 75 rating and keep him in instead of going to Webb just because apparently it takes 45 games or so to adequately judge a QB. We did it with Jackson for a few years and it won us a bunch of Super Bowls.

    Some QBs you can tell are good even when they are struggling (Peyton Manning early in his career, Matt Stafford early on) ... some you can just tell aren't (Ryan Leaf, Dan McGwire and Tim Couch for example ... or Joey Harrington who still got a shitload of opportunities for some reason). If we are 0-6 and Ponder is not looking good, there is NO reason not to give Webb the rest of the season.
    As well, not sure if it's been said, but Ponder is on a 4-year, 11 mil contract.

    If we do wind up going with another option, we don't have that much invested in him. To compare, we gave McNabb a one-year, 7 mil contract, and Favre a 1-year, 20 mil contract. When we signed Rosenfels, it was a 2-year, 9 mil cotnract. HOlcomb was 4-year, 6.6 mil. TJ was 4-year, 2.9 mil contract. Sitting Ponder would be one of the cheapest QB options since TJ and Holcomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    Don't think I ever said Ponder wasn't our future or to start Webb over him. Think you might be reading a little too much into it.
    OK, I can buy into that cause I readily admit I over analyze everything my friend.

    I just thought that was what you meant when you said you would go to Joe next season.

    I'm of the mind that any credible staff would know who gives us the best chance to win, not only for the short term, but from a long term standpoint as well......

    In short, I don't think you do anything but let the kid play next year (whoever itis). If you don't think he's the guy (whoever it is) then you should be going with the other guy.
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