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    Felt like we would have had a chance with Ponder playing but also feel like that Musgrave didn't really give Webb the correct gameplan in order for him to succeed.. The first drive went pretty good, but after that it seemed like he wanted him to be Christian Ponder and they are so different..

    The refs in this game were horrible to, the OPI on Nelson that was not called and when they scored the TD after the 12-men they had an OL down field that wasnt called either. Also a few holdings and a few roughness calls not called.. When Aromoshudo was tackled midair without touching the ball first and Adrian tackled and dragged down by his helmet.. You can't do those things and they let them.

    But yeah Webb was horrible, but he was asked to throw the ball 30 times and he is not an NFL passer, so when you do that.. you lose..

    Also found it odd that Ponder didn't didnt gave it a shot because he had the same injury in college and played tru it, but i guess if he had any chance to go he would have been in there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skum View Post
    Also found it odd that Ponder didn't didnt gave it a shot because he had the same injury in college and played tru it, but i guess if he had any chance to go he would have been in there.
    Apparently Ponder was struggling to put on his shirt, nevermind completing an NFL pass. If they thought Webb gave us a better shot at winning, he must have been bad.

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    horrible game plan by musgrave---period.

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    NO blame to the defense at all, they held GB to 24. I think if you expected less than you’re dreaming. If I was AP I would be pissed for not getting the ball enough. The play calling was horrible. If I was the offensive coordinator I would not have put the game on the shoulders of a second string QB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reignman View Post
    Not that it made a difference now, but I don't understand the 12 man penalty. The Packers never snapped the ball. Different rules on FG attempts? Every time I've seen extra defenders running off the field the offense has had to snap the ball to get the too many men on the field call.
    I'm still trying to figure out how McCarthy had the benefit of the extra time at end of the quarter to decide to challenge the TD play, decides to challenge it after they watch replays of it & then after successfully challenging it, there's still 28 seconds left to go in the quarter.

    Plus how Nelson doesn't get flagged at the 3 yard line for offensive pass interference when he blatantly & very obviously pushed off Jefferson to be able to make that deep catch from Rodgers. That and as obvious as it was, the announcers didn't say squat about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NodakPaul View Post
    I think the turning point of the game was when Webb was designated starter.
    I don't think any of us expected Webb to play as poorly as he did. It was Webb's worst game I recall ever seeing him play.

    Granted I can understanding him not having his timing down pat with the starters as he had very little time with them before being told he was going to start or being a little slower getting going since it was over a year since he played in a regular season game, but some of those throws & decisions were just terrible, especially when he McNabbed the ball at wide open receivers or over threw them.

    It was an ugly game all around on both sides of the ball. On defense Rodgers often had way to much time to throw the ball and way to many wide open receivers.
    Last edited by singersp; 01-06-2013 at 07:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out how McCarthy had the benefit of the extra time at end of the quarter to decide to challenge the TD play, decides to challenge it after they watch replays of it & then after successfully challenging it, there's still 28 seconds left to go in the quarter.

    Plus how Nelson doesn't get flagged at the 3 yard line for offensive pass interference when he blatantly & very obviously pushed off Jefferson to be able to make that deep catch from Rodgers. That and as obvious as it was, the announcers didn't say squat about it.
    Agreed Singer... My wife is now watching the games with me and I had no chance of explaining that one. Plus, Michaels and Collinsworth didn't explain it either. And, agreed re: the Nelson push off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharperImage View Post
    Damn...damn....damn - YouTube

    is all I got to say. I mean I predicted the season correctly. Proud of our guys. I hope we draft Keenan Allen in the 1st, sign a Quality WR in free agency. Bring in a QB that can push and challenge ponder. WE WILL NOT SUCCEED WITHOUT A PASSING ATTACK. Having a QB who NEVER threw for over 300 yards in 1 game the whole season is unacceptable. Our Top receiving yards WR was percy at 677 and he didnt play the last 6-7 games?
    Ponder threw for 300 yards in a game this year. I am not going to show a link or anything ... just do a little research.

    I agree that the WR position clearly needs addressed though. There needs to be 2 guys brought in to round a top five that includes Wright, Harvin and Simpson with two new guys.

    All in all though ... I have to be pretty happy with this season. I am VERY disappointed in the playoff game because we looked like we thought we didn't deserve to be there. We looked listless because our QB was out and our players, at least on offense, clearly thought we had no chance and played like it.

    We came out solid running the ball and looked like we were on a mission ... then Joe Webb threw his first pass. To an open Michael Jenkins past the first down marker ... and it came up three yards short in the dirt. The whole team was deflated by that and you could tell. We just did not feel like we were going to score, and they were right.

    I was fairly happy with the defense, but that drive at the end of the half and the start of the half falls on them and it was clear that the Packers knew the game was over at that point. They easily could have put more points on the board I think.

    All in all though ... there is no reason not to feel good going forward with this team. I think the we clearly have a couple positions that need addressed and hopefully they will be. Will be an exciting offseason trying to add to a playoff team instead of trying to become competitive like last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikesfaninWis View Post
    We had a better backup option, his name was Shane Rosenfels. However he was to "old" supposedly for this youth movement the Vikings are in, and they didn't want there pretty boy Ponder to think there was a competition going on.
    Yeah, true. In hindsight, I wonder if Frazier and Spielman are wishing they kept Rosencopter and put Webb back to the WR position. He certainly can't be any worse than Aromoshadu or Burton for God's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    Ponder threw for 300 yards in a game this year. I am not going to show a link or anything ... just do a little research.
    Well, when you throw 52 passes in a game & have all the YAC that a WR like Harvin gives you, I sure as hell hope you're throwing for 300+ yards.

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