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    Jefferson was inactive last week...not entirely unexpected.

    I certainly wouldn't place Jefferson at 2nd on the depth chart, but he did start a fair amount of time for the Cardinals last season (before being benched). So he probably is no worse than #3 or #4 on our depth chart.

    Then again, Bowman had been a starter for the Bears back in what, 09, before being benched halfway during the following year and largely riding the pine thereafter. Neither Carr or Bowman could make it out of our camp this season, we really have no idea if Jefferson is better than either one. He was a young, experienced warm body who was available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    He's 2nd on the depth chart at the RCB position. We have two starting CB's. The way you're trying to make it sound listing Cook as 2nd is if Winfield would go down Cook would take his spot.

    That is not the case. If Winfield, who's the starting LCB, goes down, Robinson, who is 2nd at LCB would step in.

    If Cook, who's the starting RCB, goes down, Jefferson, who is 2nd at RCB would step in.

    Jefferson is listed as 2nd, not 4th, not other.
    I think this is a matter of semantics. I understand what you are saying, but if we don't break down things into RCB and LCB, Jefferson is probably the 4th best CB on the team...our dime back. My guess is that Robinson is the guy we'll see on the field in nickel situations until he gets burned too much (a problem Jefferson had at Arizona, by the way).
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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    He's 2nd on the depth chart at the RCB position. We have two starting CB's. The way you're trying to make it sound listing Cook as 2nd is if Winfield would go down Cook would take his spot.

    That is not the case. If Winfield, who's the starting LCB, goes down, Robinson, who is 2nd at LCB would step in.

    If Cook, who's the starting RCB, goes down, Jefferson, who is 2nd at RCB would step in.

    Look at the Official depth chart here;

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    Jefferson is listed as 2nd, not 4th, not other. The reason you may not have seen him play against the Jags is simply because we picked him up only days before that game.
    He is 4th among CBs. You are looking an UNOFFICIAL Vikings depth chart that lines the players up behind LCB and RCB for the sake of fans. In reality it doesn't work that way. We have 2 CBs on the field in most situations - and that is Winfield and Cook. We have 3 CBs on the field in nickel situations - and that is Winfield, Cook, and Robinson. We have 4 CBs on the field in dime situations - and that is Winfield, Cook, Robinson and most likely Jefferson.

    If Winfield goes down, Cook DOES inherit Winfield's spot. Robinson comes in for Cook.

    Who do you think would come in if Cook got knocked out of a game? Jefferson? No - it would be Robinson again.

    LCB/RCB is just a designation that doesn't necessarily dictate where they line up on the field - especially if we go to a man defense.

    When you say Jefferson's the #2 CB on our team, you are implying that he is one of the starters. He is not. He is our dime CB, no more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NodakPaul View Post
    He is 4th among CBs. You are looking an UNOFFICIAL Vikings depth chart that lines the players up behind LCB and RCB for the sake of fans. In reality it doesn't work that way. We have 2 CBs on the field in most situations - and that is Winfield and Cook. We have 3 CBs on the field in nickel situations - and that is Winfield, Cook, and Robinson. We have 4 CBs on the field in dime situations - and that is Winfield, Cook, Robinson and most likely Jefferson.

    If Winfield goes down, Cook DOES inherit Winfield's spot. Robinson comes in for Cook.

    Who do you think would come in if Cook got knocked out of a game? Jefferson? No - it would be Robinson again.

    LCB/RCB is just a designation that doesn't necessarily dictate where they line up on the field - especially if we go to a man defense.

    When you say Jefferson's the #2 CB on our team, you are implying that he is one of the starters. He is not. He is our dime CB, no more.
    Call what you will, but the fact remains he will not be so far down the depth chart that he won't see play time, like many believe. Like you said, he's already going to be playing in dime situations.

    If Cook gets knocked out or is rested, you're only assuming that Robinson comes in next ahead of Jefferson and what are you basing that on? Last weeks game? He was inactive last week, more than likely because he was just signed. Even still, if one of our 2 starters gets injured, which with our past injury history in the secondary, could happen, Jefferson sees a lot more play time.

    That doesn't sound to me like a player buried way down the depth chart.

    I saw your list of CB's that were signed after the cuts. Do you believe Jefferson is significantly better than Chris Carr, who we cut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    I saw your list of CB's that were signed after the cuts. Do you believe Jefferson is significantly better than Chris Carr, who we cut?
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    At this point that is like saying a light brown pile of crap is better than a dark brown pile of crap

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