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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

    "ejmat" wrote:
    I think Longwell is kicking the kickoffs higher instead of further in an attempt to let our guys get down the field as they are catching the ball.
    It doesn't give the returner a good chance to get going and remember there is no 2 feet rule unless the KR calls a fair catch.

    As far as punts the team has improved allot over the past couple of weeks so let's hope they keep that up.

    The blocked FGs are a concern both on the the blocking side and on Longwell.
    Yesterday's blame is difficult to tell because Dugan had to choose between 2 people.
    I would have probably chosen the one that was making the most direct route like Dugan did.
    Cromartie just made a hell of a play to block that kick.
    That also leads me to believe Longwell may have taken too long once the ball was snapped to make the kick.

    Overall I am happy with Longwell so in this case you take the good with the bad.
    Sorry but Dugan did not have to chose between too. He guessed wrong. The inside guy was blocked. Dugan let the wrong many go and tried to correct it at the last moment.
    He may just need some reps.

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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

    "kevoncox" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    I think Longwell is kicking the kickoffs higher instead of further in an attempt to let our guys get down the field as they are catching the ball.
    It doesn't give the returner a good chance to get going and remember there is no 2 feet rule unless the KR calls a fair catch.

    As far as punts the team has improved allot over the past couple of weeks so let's hope they keep that up.

    The blocked FGs are a concern both on the the blocking side and on Longwell.
    Yesterday's blame is difficult to tell because Dugan had to choose between 2 people.
    I would have probably chosen the one that was making the most direct route like Dugan did.
    Cromartie just made a hell of a play to block that kick.
    That also leads me to believe Longwell may have taken too long once the ball was snapped to make the kick.

    Overall I am happy with Longwell so in this case you take the good with the bad.
    Sorry but Dugan did not have to chose between too. He guessed wrong. The inside guy was blocked. Dugan let the wrong many go and tried to correct it at the last moment.
    He may just need some reps.
    You may be correct.
    I would have to look at the play again.
    From what I remember he was lined up on two guys.

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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "kevoncox" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    I think Longwell is kicking the kickoffs higher instead of further in an attempt to let our guys get down the field as they are catching the ball.
    It doesn't give the returner a good chance to get going and remember there is no 2 feet rule unless the KR calls a fair catch.

    As far as punts the team has improved allot over the past couple of weeks so let's hope they keep that up.

    The blocked FGs are a concern both on the the blocking side and on Longwell.
    Yesterday's blame is difficult to tell because Dugan had to choose between 2 people.
    I would have probably chosen the one that was making the most direct route like Dugan did.
    Cromartie just made a hell of a play to block that kick.
    That also leads me to believe Longwell may have taken too long once the ball was snapped to make the kick.

    Overall I am happy with Longwell so in this case you take the good with the bad.
    Sorry but Dugan did not have to chose between too. He guessed wrong. The inside guy was blocked. Dugan let the wrong many go and tried to correct it at the last moment.
    He may just need some reps.
    You may be correct.
    I would have to look at the play again.
    From what I remember he was lined up on two guys.
    The problem was they overloaded the side which resulted in Dugan having to block 2 people.
    His job in that case is to take the guy with the shortest route and stick an arm out to try to slow the outer guy (which rarely works by the way).

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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "kevoncox" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    I think Longwell is kicking the kickoffs higher instead of further in an attempt to let our guys get down the field as they are catching the ball.
    It doesn't give the returner a good chance to get going and remember there is no 2 feet rule unless the KR calls a fair catch.

    As far as punts the team has improved allot over the past couple of weeks so let's hope they keep that up.

    The blocked FGs are a concern both on the the blocking side and on Longwell.
    Yesterday's blame is difficult to tell because Dugan had to choose between 2 people.
    I would have probably chosen the one that was making the most direct route like Dugan did.
    Cromartie just made a hell of a play to block that kick.
    That also leads me to believe Longwell may have taken too long once the ball was snapped to make the kick.

    Overall I am happy with Longwell so in this case you take the good with the bad.
    Sorry but Dugan did not have to chose between too. He guessed wrong. The inside guy was blocked. Dugan let the wrong many go and tried to correct it at the last moment.
    He may just need some reps.
    You may be correct.
    I would have to look at the play again.
    From what I remember he was lined up on two guys.
    The problem was they overloaded the side which resulted in Dugan having to block 2 people.
    His job in that case is to take the guy with the shortest route and stick an arm out to try to slow the outer guy (which rarely works by the way).

    Thanks Marrdro for the clarification.
    I started to think I was crazy but I would still like to see it again.
    I didn't think the "inner" man was blocked either.

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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "kevoncox" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    I think Longwell is kicking the kickoffs higher instead of further in an attempt to let our guys get down the field as they are catching the ball.
    It doesn't give the returner a good chance to get going and remember there is no 2 feet rule unless the KR calls a fair catch.

    As far as punts the team has improved allot over the past couple of weeks so let's hope they keep that up.

    The blocked FGs are a concern both on the the blocking side and on Longwell.
    Yesterday's blame is difficult to tell because Dugan had to choose between 2 people.
    I would have probably chosen the one that was making the most direct route like Dugan did.
    Cromartie just made a hell of a play to block that kick.
    That also leads me to believe Longwell may have taken too long once the ball was snapped to make the kick.

    Overall I am happy with Longwell so in this case you take the good with the bad.
    Sorry but Dugan did not have to chose between too. He guessed wrong. The inside guy was blocked. Dugan let the wrong many go and tried to correct it at the last moment.
    He may just need some reps.
    You may be correct.
    I would have to look at the play again.
    From what I remember he was lined up on two guys.
    The problem was they overloaded the side which resulted in Dugan having to block 2 people.
    His job in that case is to take the guy with the shortest route and stick an arm out to try to slow the outer guy (which rarely works by the way).

    Thanks Marrdro for the clarification.
    I started to think I was crazy but I would still like to see it again.
    I didn't think the "inner" man was blocked either.
    He wasn't totally blocked.
    Damn good play by the Cards, poor preparation by the Vikes resulted in a player put into a bad situation......

    Dugan, poor bastard, tried to do to much.
    His play on 3rd and shorts made up for it though......;D
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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

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    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=49558.msg879311#msg879311 date=1229351047]
    I think Longwell is kicking the kickoffs higher instead of further in an attempt to let our guys get down the field as they are catching the ball.
    It doesn't give the returner a good chance to get going and remember there is no 2 feet rule unless the KR calls a fair catch.

    As far as punts the team has improved allot over the past couple of weeks so let's hope they keep that up.

    The blocked FGs are a concern both on the the blocking side and on Longwell.
    Yesterday's blame is difficult to tell because Dugan had to choose between 2 people.
    I would have probably chosen the one that was making the most direct route like Dugan did.
    Cromartie just made a hell of a play to block that kick.
    That also leads me to believe Longwell may have taken too long once the ball was snapped to make the kick.

    Overall I am happy with Longwell so in this case you take the good with the bad.
    Sorry but Dugan did not have to chose between too. He guessed wrong. The inside guy was blocked. Dugan let the wrong many go and tried to correct it at the last moment.
    He may just need some reps.
    You may be correct.
    I would have to look at the play again.
    From what I remember he was lined up on two guys.
    The problem was they overloaded the side which resulted in Dugan having to block 2 people.
    His job in that case is to take the guy with the shortest route and stick an arm out to try to slow the outer guy (which rarely works by the way).

    Thanks Marrdro for the clarification.
    I started to think I was crazy but I would still like to see it again.
    I didn't think the "inner" man was blocked either.
    He wasn't totally blocked.
    gol 'darnit good play by the Cards, poor preparation by the Vikes resulted in a player put into a bad situation......

    Dugan, poor bastard, tried to do to much.

    His play on 3rd and shorts made up for it though......;D
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    On the replay it showed Dugan move to the inside realize that the guy he wanted to block was block and then try to make a last ditch shove on the defender going past him. Again, it's on Dugan. Do your job!

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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

    I'm wrong I went back and looked at it and it shows that it was just an overload and Dugan did his best.
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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

    Our kickoff and punt coverage has improved significantly. Abdullah has been a beast over the last few weeks and Hicks was playing great coverage yesterday.

    What happened to Renaud? I hope they didn't suit him because he is nursing an injury and will be back soon. There is something about the way he runs. He has almost broken two for TDs of not for tackles by the kickers over the last two or three weeks.
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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

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    Our kickoff and punt coverage has improved significantly. Abdullah has been a beast over the last few weeks and Hicks was playing great coverage yesterday.

    What happened to Renaud? I hope they didn't suit him because he is nursing an injury and will be back soon. There is something about the way he runs. He has almost broken two for TDs of not for tackles by the kickers over the last two or three weeks.
    I have been his biggest supported since we signed him. The guy is a ST beast. His only issu eis he trys to run over kickers not out run them. Damn it DR pick a sideline and run away from the guy. I have seen him get tackle by 3 kickers this season ( 1 pre-season game and 2 regular season games) Should we cut hicks?

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    Re: Vikings' special teams sets NFL record

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    I'm wrong I went back and looked at it and it shows that it was just an overload and Dugan did his best.
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