05-14-2014, 02:58 PM #51
But yeah, McKinnon is a good pick... still wish we had drafted Dri Archer though.Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.
05-14-2014, 03:00 PM #52
- It’s pretty clear that Bridgewater cleans up in every zone except the deep ball. He’s excellent throwing the short ball where he’s about 6-7% above average for the two zones. Some have criticized Bridgewater’s deep ball, and while not bad - his completion percentage of about 51% is about average.
They feel Bridgewater "cleaned up" in every passing aspect except the deep ball, where he is just average. Not below average, not weak, just average. How exactly does that make him a weak arm?
BTW... how many years have you 2 been arguing and insulting each other, exactly? I feel like this is like chapter 13 to a very long book of arguing...Men are moved by two levers only: fear and self interest.
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05-14-2014, 03:13 PM #53
Should I also mention that Manziel was going against SEC defenses vs Bridgewater playing against AAC opponents? Nah, that would make too much sense. (AAC is one of the weakest major conferences in the NCAA... just throwing that out there)
All I'm saying is don't be surprised if we see a very conservative gameplan with Bridgewater... and also, don't be surprised if Bridgewater is Ponder 2.0.
Last edited by C Mac D; 05-14-2014 at 03:17 PM.Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.
05-14-2014, 03:51 PM #54
BUT ... I don't think he is Ponder 2.0. His arm is stronger, his timing is better and I think that his CONFIDENCE is better ... which was — honestly — always Ponder's biggest weakness. He hesitates because he is unsure of what he sees. Bridgewater is NOT this and should be fine.
Both Bridgewater and Ponder have enough arm to drive the 15-20 yard passes, but if you lack faith in yourself ... it will flutter.
I am completely in the boat that we should have tried a little harder to get that No. 22 and take Manziel. I think Manziel is going to be a star and I really think he would have flourished with Norv, but I do think Bridgewater is more than capable with star potential as an ultimate upside.
In the end ... as long as you know you don't have an answer at QB (we don't) then you have to keep addressing it. If Bridgewater sucks (which he might) ... then we address it again in 2017 or 2018. You keep taking your shots until you hit.
05-14-2014, 05:01 PM #55
05-14-2014, 06:02 PM #56
Accuracy and arm strength are two different things. What you should be looking at on the deep ball is Velocity. Windup is the biggest factor on deep throws. Qbs with strong arms typically don't have to windup to get the ball there. Accuracy is accuracy, the ability to put the ball where it needs to be. Accuracy can be affected by arm strength but a Qb with a weaker arm can still be accurate deep. It just takes them time to windup to do so. TB's issues with the accuracy on the deep ball is laughable....
Carr...who has the strongest arm in the draft, has the worst deep ball accuracy ( based on completions % which can be affected by WR talent, defenses played, weather/stadiums etc) Basically, your argument is flawed, the argument of the argument you presented is flawed, and I have just wasted 15 mins of my life...
Prove to me that Teddy has a WEAK arm. Your statement.
I can prove to you where he has an NFL arm.
05-14-2014, 06:09 PM #57
05-14-2014, 06:25 PM #58
05-14-2014, 06:37 PM #59
I can't wait to see what they do with RB McKinnon. This kid is a stud & sneaky quick. Strong as an ox. He will be a great pass blocker, short rout reciever out of the backfield & change of pace back for AP. And watch out when you get him into space. He could be a late round pick-up in your fantasy draft & consistantly score you a TD and 50 yards recieving & rushing.
05-14-2014, 07:33 PM #60
I love this Jerick McKinnon thread
Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent
As a matter of fact, I do know