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    Vikings scrimmage with Chiefs

    Posted on Thu, Aug. 03, 2006

    [size=18px]Vikings gear up for scrimmage with Chiefs[/size]

    JON KRAWCZYNSKI
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    MANKATO, Minn. - After beating up on each other during some physical practices to start training camp, the Minnesota Vikings are anxious to work against someone else.

    They'll get their chance on Friday night, when the Kansas City Chiefs come to town for an extended scrimmage.

    The session will help the Vikings see just how far along they are in learning new head coach Brad Childress' West Coast offense and new defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin's Tampa 2 defense.

    It should be a refreshing change for both teams.

    "Anytime you see a different color jersey it turns the volume up a little bit and that's OK," Tomlin said. "But we're really focused on what we do and how we do it. So it's just another opportunity for us to go out and clean up more details on the things that we do. It's going to provide a challenge and maybe some looks that we haven't seen."

    Not everything will be new.

    Running back Michael Bennett was traded from New Orleans to Kansas City this week, meaning he'll be back in Mankato for a sixth straight year. Bennett spent his first five seasons with the Vikings before signing with the Saints as a free agent.

    "I've been getting calls all night," Bennett said. "It will be good to see the guys again. But this is a business trip. You can laugh and joke afterwards."

    There certainly is no joke about this scrimmage on the field. Fights and brawls have become common in the annual event, but both coaching staffs have warned their players that will not be tolerated this year.

    Tight end Jim Kleinsasser said he's just looking forward to breaking the monotony.

    "It'll be good to get a fresh look at something new," Kleinsasser said. "We bang on each others' heads all day long here and we kind of get sick of each other. We know each others' quirks and everything so it'll be nice to get some fresh blood around."

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    ZEBRA HERD: The Vikings brought in NFL officials to watch practice for the next few days and brief the players on rules changes for the upcoming season.

    One of the most significant changes affects onside kicks. Kicking teams used to be able to load up all of their players on one side of the formation to increase the odds of recovering the short kick.

    But the NFL has now made that an illegal formation, and coaches will have to line up at least four players on each side of the kicker.

    "I don't know the philosophy on that," referee Larry Nemmers said. "I think (the old way) is exciting. It probably had something to do with safety."

    The competition committee also reduced the amount of time an official has to replay a call from 90 seconds to 60, made a "down-by-contact" call reviewable and made it illegal for a player to conduct a prolonged individual celebration.

    Last season, if a player was ruled down by contact before fumbling the ball, officials could not review the play. Now they can, and if it is determined that the ball carrier fumbled before hitting the ground and the defense recovers, the defense will be awarded the ball at the spot of the recovery.

    Points of emphasis this year will be low hits on the quarterback and offensive holding.

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    KICK RETURNERS: Mewelde Moore practiced as the No. 1 kick returner on Thursday, but special teams coordinator Paul Ferraro said the competition is still open and receiver Koren Robinson is a candidate.

    "We've worked him in as a kick returner because we want to see where he might be able to take that phase," Ferraro said of Moore. "So he'll get some work in the preseason and we'll see where that goes."

    Robinson went to the Pro Bowl as a return specialist last season and is still in the mix.

    Moore is also the No. 1 punt returner right now, but Darren Sharper and Travis Taylor have also been catching punts in practice. Taylor dropped two in the afternoon session.

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    INJURY UPDATE: Defensive back Charles Gordon was carted off the field on Thursday with a left knee injury.

    Gordon, who was having a good camp after signing with the Vikings as a rookie free agent out of Kansas, was injured in the afternoon session. He appeared to be in significant pain, but Vikings coaches and trainers did not release information on the severity of the injury.

    On the bright side, receiver Dez White returned to the afternoon practice after missing four straight sessions with swelling in his right knee. White wore a long white stocking on his right leg and caught some passes.

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    QUOTE OF THE DAY: Offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell might have been taking things just a tad too seriously when he was asked about Friday night's scrimmage with the Chiefs after the morning practice on Thursday.

    "That's one more day ahead, and we have one more practice this afternoon, so we have to take care of business this afternoon before we look ahead to the Chiefs coming in here," he said.

    Sheesh.

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    Re: Vikings gear up for scrimmage with Chiefs

    Published August 04, 2006 03:38 am

    At training camp 2003, Minnesota Vikings cornerback Rushen Jones tackled Kansas City receiver Dameane Douglas, causing a knee injury that prompted Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil to say that Jones should be “shot in the head.”

    [size=18px]Chad Courrier column: More footbrawl, or will Vikes and Chiefs learn to play nice?[/size]


    By Chad Courrier
    The Free Press

    MANKATO —
    At training camp 2003, Minnesota Vikings cornerback Rushen Jones tackled Kansas City receiver Dameane Douglas, causing a knee injury that prompted Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil to say that Jones should be “shot in the head.”


    In 2004, Vikings defensive tackle Brock Lesnar touched off several skirmishes with a questionable hit on the Chiefs backup quarterback, then ignited the frenzy later by diving into the pile with fists swinging, either trying to get noticed by the coaches and fans or bringing an element of professional wrestling into the NFL.

    In 2005, the teams, apparently tired of the childish scrums, decided they’d practice on their own at their own field against their own players.

    Today, the teams will try again at Blakeslee Stadium. With Vermiel and former Vikings coach Mike Tice gone, perhaps Brad Childress and Herm Edwards can get their respective teams to focus more on passes than punches. Will there be chaos or kindness, knockouts or nothing?

    “We’re not naive,” Vikings defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin said. “We realize that tempers run hot from time to time, but that has nothing to do with developing winning football. That’s why we’re here. In no way do we condone those kind of activities, and if they occur they will be dealt with.”

    Tomlin might turn out to be an excellent defensive coordinator, but he’ll never make it in show business. Telling prospective fans, ages 4 and up, that they should shell out $10 to watch two teams dance instead of hit isn’t going to pack ’em in. It’s like a strip club advertising bathrobe night, just not giving the patrons what they’re paying to see.

    But controlling the amount of tackling is the proper way to get accomplished what needs to get accomplished when preparing for the upcoming season.

    Childress, the poster coach for no-nonsense, said earlier this week that their won’t be much live work, meaning their won’t be much tackling. Nobody wants anybody to get hurt.

    “We just want their bodies to work against,” Childress said. “(Edwards) appreciates that, and I appreciate that.”

    The best chance for some serious hitting will come if the teams square off in goal-line situations, pitting top offenses against top defenses. You know Kansas City’s Larry Johnson wouldn’t mind bowling over a couple of Vikings linebackers, and you know that Vikings center Matt Birk wouldn’t mind pancaking a nose guard if the opportunity arises.

    But limiting contact is the best, if not less exciting, way to get the team ready. Tice didn’t get it, preferring to thrust a macho image to the public. Lesnar didn’t get, preferring to flex his muscles and hone his showmanship skills.

    Training camp fights can be fun, but it’s more important to get the team ready for Sept. 11 at Washington, when the blocking and tackling will count and none of the players and coaches are particularly concerned if the opponent sustains some minor injury.

    Chad Courrier is a Free Press staff writer. To contact him, call 344-6353 or e-mail him at [email protected]

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    Re: Vikings gear up for scrimmage with Chiefs

    ZEBRA HERD: The Vikings brought in NFL officials to watch practice for the next few days and brief the players on rules changes for the upcoming season.

    One of the most significant changes affects onside kicks. Kicking teams used to be able to load up all of their players on one side of the formation to increase the odds of recovering the short kick.

    But the NFL has now made that an illegal formation, and coaches will have to line up at least four players on each side of the kicker.

    "I don't know the philosophy on that," referee Larry Nemmers said. "I think (the old way) is exciting. It probably had something to do with safety."[/quote]

    Unusual to hear a Zebra comment on rule changes like that, just goes to show that even they don't always agree on the changes made by the Competition Committee.
    Anyone know the change was made ? I don't recall there being a lot of recovered onside kicks last season, or even injuries through them
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    Re: Vikings gear up for scrimmage with Chiefs

    Posted on Fri, Aug. 04, 2006

    [size=18px]Vikings will be a nice change[/size]

    Edwards doesn’t want practice against Minnesota to become another slugfest.

    By ELIZABETH MERRILL
    The Kansas City Star


    RIVER FALLS, Wis -
    Michael Bennett, meet Greg Wesley. Two years ago, you traded fists and maybe even a few insults in a scrum in Mankato, Minn. It was over a face mask, apparently. Everybody was doing it. Less than an hour later, everybody was happily eating together in a cafeteria, no hard feelings.

    Chiefs-Vikings is wacky like that.

    Training camp can get a little tired, especially when you’re knocking the same heads for a week. Tonight, the Chiefs take a two-hour jaunt west to Minnesota’s camp for a practice. It’s their first trip to Mankato in two years, when a brawl ensued during a Friday night practice.

    Bennett was a Viking then and fondly remembers how when visitors came to town, they wanted “to make it hurt.”

    “There’s going to be some intensity out there,” he said. “I got a really good feeling from coach (Herm) Edwards that he’s going to open the can and let the beans spill out.

    “Hopefully, we can go in and get some work done instead of fighting this time.”

    Edwards has already made it clear that this won’t turn into a WWE match. He planned to talk to the team about sportsmanship before the practice and was certain Vikings coach Brad Childress would do the same.

    Edwards often punishes his players for fighting in practice. Will Svitek was kicked out of a workout this spring after a scuffle. Svitek, by the way, mixed it up Thursday morning with linebacker William Kersaw and rookie safety Bernard Pollard. Defensive-line coach Tim Krumrie broke the scuffle up.

    But the tempers have been relatively calm this week, maybe because of Edwards’ shorter, fast-tempo practices. This one should have a considerably bigger audience. The Chiefs-Vikings workout drew more than 6,000 fans two years ago.

    “Too many people are going to watch you practice,” Edwards said, “and it would be a shame if all of a sudden you practice for two hours and 30 minutes and the only thing they show on ESPN is a fight. It’s embarrassing to the league and the players. I don’t anticipate that.”

    To reach Elizabeth Merrill, Chiefs reporter for The Star, call (816) 234-4744 or send e-mail to [email protected]

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    Vikings-Chiefs to … practice
    Friday, August 4th, 2006 by Judd Zulgad
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    Yes, the Vikings will get to face another NFL team at 6:30 tonight when the Kansas City Chiefs visit Mankato. But anyone paying the $10 charge to get in because they think they are going to see a scrimmage or plenty of on-field action needs to be warned. This thing will be a 2-hour, 15-minute practice. According to the Vikings, all three practice fields at Minnesota State, Mankato, will be used and a portion of the practice will move into Blakeslee Stadium.

    “There will not be a whole lot of live stuff,” coach Brad Childress said. “We just want their bodies to work against [us].”

    In other words, don’t except the high intensity that led to frequent altercations when the Vikings and Chiefs practiced during Mike Tice’s tenure as Minnesota’s coach. These teams have practiced regularly against each other since 1991 but failed to do so last year in part because of the bad blood that led to little getting accomplished.

    The joint practices between these teams is a good fit because the Chiefs hold their camp in River Falls, Wis., which is about a three-hour drive from Mankato. While former Vikings running back Michael Bennett will return wearing a Chiefs jersey, Kansas City won’t get to see one of its former players.

    Fullback Tony Richardson, who spent his first 11 seasons in Kansas City before joining the Vikings as a free agent during the offseason, will miss tonight’s practice to attend the Pro Football Hall of Fame induction ceremony Saturday in Canton, Ohio. Richardson and 2006 inductee Warren Moon are good friends. They played together in Kansas City in 1999 and 2000.


    It will be interesting to read what's written about this practice by the press.
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    It will be strange to see MB in the Chiefs uniform. Wish I could go to this.

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