12-01-2010, 05:17 PM #11
Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trustOriginally Posted by "snowinapril" #1080767
Unless you play on the Pats, everyone else continues to go with the "Bigger, stronger, faster" path of selecting players. Toby falls into that catagory.
On a side note, as he gets more reps/comfortable reading what the OL is going to do in thier blocking handovers, I think you will see him break a few.
Long story short, dude is big, but not slow.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-01-2010, 05:20 PM #12
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Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trustOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1080761
12-01-2010, 05:24 PM #13
Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trustOriginally Posted by "HEY" #1080778
Couple of quick questions......Did you see the questions I put in the "Teach the Infidel" thread for the RB's this week? I would be interested to see your answers if you get to see the game.
.....Seems that you don't give Toby much credit for speed/ability to get outside. I can remember some youtube runs and scout comments that he had the speed to get to the outside at the next level.
Am I wrong in my belief that he can be a breakout runner. Not to the extend AD is, but right there with your above average back.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-01-2010, 05:32 PM #14
Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trustOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1080783
He's no Alstot but does have some power and leg drive.
I agree with IBP, he was taken too high.“What takes a quarterback to the next level is not arm strength or mobility or any of that stuff. It’s the ability to play on critical downs. Manage third downs, or red zones or four-minute or two-minute situations"
12-01-2010, 05:47 PM #15
Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trustOriginally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1080785
Mix in that he was probably the only one who really fit he bill/matched the scheme.
If I was gonna be upset about a pick, I would be about Cook. Don't get me wrong, I like him, but there 3 or 4 others that probably could have been taken later allowing us to go DT in that spot.
I think most now agree that we are really hurting in that area this year. Much worse than we would have been at the CB right now.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-01-2010, 05:57 PM #16
Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trust
I have never had a problem with Gerhart, even during the early part of the season, because he was not getting enough touches to really judge.
Running backs are very difficult to judge without a fair amount of carries. I think that we saw he can be very effective. I am not sure he could be a superstar type back, but he could be a solid 1,000+ yard bruiser type in the right spot and I think he fits in very well here.
Why not start and move toward a VERY heavy run offense featuring Adrian and Toby. I could easily see an AD 1,400+ yard season combined with a Toby 800+ yard season in a few years.
12-01-2010, 05:57 PM #17
Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trustOriginally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1080788
FYI, From one of the articles I had on him for my mock.....
"As a white running back you get stereotyped," Gerhart says. "When I tell people I play football, they say, 'Oh, you're a fullback.'" But Gerhart runs more like Glyn Milburn—the shifty former Stanford great he passed to become fifth on the school's alltime rushing list—than like former Cardinal bruisers Tommy Vardell and Brad Muster. During Stanford's Sept. 26 win over Washington, Todd Gerhart heard a Huskies coach shout, "He's not fast enough to turn the corner!" A few plays later Toby ripped off a 60-yard touchdown run.
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Can't remember for sure but I think AD's were in the 4.3/4.4 range.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-01-2010, 06:00 PM #18
Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trustOriginally Posted by "midgensa" #1080799
If, big if, AD does go down, I don't worry about the offense going into next season. I think the reps he is getting this year will go along way in that regard.
Doesn't mean I am comfortable this year though but last weeks performance sure makes me feel a bit better.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-01-2010, 06:03 PM #19
Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trustOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1080796
There s only two things stopping you - fear and common sense!! The Truth you CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!
12-01-2010, 07:10 PM #20
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Re: Vikings rookie RB Toby Gerhart gaining yards,trustOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1080786
Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1080786
Gerhart looks fast enough to move the chains and can pick up some good speed when he gets his feet rolling. Do I think he's a breakout runner? No, I don't. Adrian Peterson is the big play-maker with runs like 2,0,16,3,1,12. Gerhart is instead a type of back who will look to move the chains in my opinion and it's nothing wrong with that.
Also, similar to Adrian, Toby seems like the type of back who loves to be the workhorse and gets better with every carry. If Peterson is not able to play, I would not hesitate with feeding the rock to Gerhart a little. Especially considering the circumstances. Peterson need to be 100 % when it really matters. If the Vikings can't beat the Bills without Adrian, then something's wrong.
By the way, did you know that Gerhart modeled his game after Peterson in college?
"I remember when I first started college, Adrian Peterson was the man in college," Gerhart said. "I remember saying I want to emulate my game after him. I want to be as good as he is. The opportunity to go there, to play with him, to learn under him and complement him is really a huge honor and a dream come true."
From a productivity standpoint, Gerhart was right on par with Peterson's electric career at Oklahoma.
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