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    Re: Vikings RBs

    Anyone else think Fason could be a long term answer? IMO, he's looked really good in the preseason.

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    yah i think Fason will be great next year. i'm just really concerned about our line. we'll get Birk back next season but who knows how he will play, and i'd be disappointed if we couldn't find a way to run the ball even if our best o-lineman is down. it all starts up front, we've been spoiled by a QB who can scramble and break out of potential tackles. we difinately have to worry about this sooner than later while we have all this talent on both sides of the ball.

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    "ltrey33" wrote:
    Anyone else think Fason could be a long term answer? IMO, he's looked really good in the preseason.
    I think he is the answer for sure. I didn't know very much about him when he was drafted but after watching highlight reels over and over I think he could be our longterm back. Wouldn't that be a blessing. :shock:

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    Neglected in practice. Neglected in film. Neglected in the playbook. Having a counter, a draw, a dive, and a sweep, and a very poorly executed reverse is not enough imo.

    They run the ball far less then other teams in the reg season. Pre Season is different. After the first half they don't want the clock stopping, heck all game they want that bad boy rolling to get it over with.

    Look at it this way. We start a game out great we put a lot of points on the board. Then we attempt to control the clock through the run and boom it's 3rd and 8. I think the offense is so unbalanced that the run has been neglected.

    If a team passes all game the defense doesn't need to worry about the run they need to worry about the pass. That means they are doing a combination of stunts, blitzes, and even shifts to get pressure. Which means our O-line have to account for more packages of defense and looks then most other teams.

    I think they spend more time on that and miss out on some serious run practice. It must come from fear, that the one thing we do very well will diminish to the point of being ineffective. IMO if they did have a good run game Culpepper would be breaking records.
    I think you are right on this one.
    It seems they are scared of running the ball. I think in the preseason, Tice was really scared of losing any of his backs since they were nicked up. I think they just need to tweak their philosophy a little and have a little more faith in the running game instead of running away from it too quickly.
    Running the ball is all about rythm (sp?) and I think that Bennett and Moore are both seriously better backs the more carries they get.
    As for Fason, I definitely think he looks good for the future, but don't count out a Whizzinator return next year, and don't count out Smith wanting to make an impact if we open the door for him again.

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    "ltrey33" wrote:
    Anyone else think Fason could be a long term answer? IMO, he's looked really good in the preseason.
    I think its too early to tell. He looked pretty good in his college videos that I've seen, but they only show the 1% of the plays that he's in where he scores 60 yard tds. I haven't seen enough of him in college to tell how he does on an every down basis.

    So far in preseason, he's probably been our best back. But most of the time he's been playing against 3rd stringers, so its hard to tell. When he started against the Hawks, he seemed a bit overwhelmed playing the starters, but he still showed a few flashes (like that play where he seemed to get tackled in front of the line, but then somehow got up and ran 3 more yards for the first down - anyone else remember that?)

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    anybody know what round we picked R. Smith up in, when we got him? i'm just wondering because Moore, Fason, Smith. They were all late round draft picks, i'm just wondering if we should ivest a higher draft pick in a better RB. i know that moore, smith have shown flashes of brillance but neither one of them i would say is ur protypical #1 back that can rush 25-30 a game and get you 3 to 4 yards a carry. i'm just wondering because that would be pretty sad if our running game went down the chute just because Birk went down, i know he's a pro bowl center but dang we have to be able to run the ball with some success.

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    anybody know what round we picked R. Smith up in, when we got him? i'm just wondering because Moore, Fason, Smith. They were all late round draft picks, i'm just wondering if we should ivest a higher draft pick in a better RB. i know that moore, smith have shown flashes of brillance but neither one of them i would say is ur protypical #1 back that can rush 25-30 a game and get you 3 to 4 yards a carry. i'm just wondering because that would be pretty sad if our running game went down the chute just because Birk went down, i know he's a pro bowl center but dang we have to be able to run the ball with some success.
    He was drafted in the first round in either 92 or 93 (can't remember which) He went through a couple of years like Bennett where he was injured a ton, and then broke out and did really well for a few years. Then he suddenly retired. I think he was one of their biggest components to their 98 team. Everyone talked about Cunningham to Moss and Carter and Jake Reed, but the guy that kept defences honest was Smith.

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    do you think that we should go after a... not a higher quality back, that's not the right term, i guess somebody who was carrying the ball 25-30 times a year in college? i totally agree that Smith was one of the key success to us going 15-1, him and having a backup like hoard. so what does anybody think about that, go after somebody who is more known, like the top 3 rbs this year or go after lineman as a solution, or should the coaching staff just focus more on the run and practice more than a couple of different runs?

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    The thing is, to get a top 3 running back in the draft, we'd have to get a really high pick. And there are only two ways to get one.

    a) you give up Daunte Culpepper/Kevin Williams/some other amazing star like Moss

    b) you start Shaun Hill, Keenan Howry and Adam Goldberg for one year to ensure that your final record is worse than 3-13 :lol:

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    i know what you mean, but we can't keep putting this late round RBs in there and expect to be really good running the ball. i think the last time we had a running back that got over a 1000 yards was Michael Bennet and that was like 3 years ago or something. so would you seek a back like Alexander or James who are looking for long term contracts? i mean we could do that, but if we were going to do that we should have done that this season.

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