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    Re: Vikings Leading Man Rarely Returns

    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    It would seem the Vikings are continuing the trend of simply finding a return specialist among the players on the 53-man roster and not designating a roster spot to a true return specialist.
    Some yutz has been saying that for awhile on here.

    ;D

    By the way, very intersting stat that B-wade lead the team in PR when he was only doing it out of necessity last year and I was really suprised that we had such a high fair catch percentage.


    I thought Memo was like some sort of return machine.

    ;D
    LOL Marr, he only had 3 more PR's than Memo. Wade was also active for 4 more games than Memo as well.

    Punt Returns













    G

    GS

    Ret

    Yds

    TD
    Lng

    Y/R
    Bobby Wade



    16

    12

    16

    112

    0

    17


    7.0
    Mewelde Moore

    12


    0

    13

    130

    0

    42

    10.0
    LOL, I wasn't picking on your boy my friend.
    I just found it interesting that he had more than Memo.

    ;D

    Thanks for the stats my friend.
    You know how much I like digging into them.

    I find it interesting as wel that Memo had a long return of 42 and yet had only a 3 yard longer return avg than B-wade.

    130-42 = 88 yds.
    88 yds divided by 12 returns = 7.33333333
    Again, very interesting when one thinks about it.
    You must be practicing that new math, Marr. How is it you subtracted his longest run in determining his average?

    You simply don't knock off a punt returners longest return & then figure his average. That is what they are supposed to do. Even if you do, why is it you didn't knock off Wades longest run as well?

    Further more, lets say that you do for comparisons sake, why did you divide by 12? Basically by subtracting the 42 yarder & not subtracting a return, you gave him 0 for that return.

    It should be this..........

    130-42 = 88 yds.
    88 yds divided by [s]12[/s]
    11 returns = [s]7.33333333[/s] 8.0

    112-17 = 95 yds.
    95 yds divided by 15 returns = 6.3

    Needless to say, Memo was the better return man no matter how you slice it.
    Why can't you take away his top return.
    Truth be told, when dealing with metrics/analysis you graph out the data, throw out the high and the low to get a better feel for the ground truth.

    Again, quick acting like I am picking on your boy.
    I'm not.
    I'm just looking at stats and not slicing anything.
    You are the one who keeps running to his defence like I am trying to make him look like shit or something.
    ;D
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    Re: Vikings Leading Man Rarely Returns

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    It would seem the Vikings are continuing the trend of simply finding a return specialist among the players on the 53-man roster and not designating a roster spot to a true return specialist.
    Some yutz has been saying that for awhile on here.

    ;D

    By the way, very intersting stat that B-wade lead the team in PR when he was only doing it out of necessity last year and I was really suprised that we had such a high fair catch percentage.


    I thought Memo was like some sort of return machine.
    ;D
    LOL Marr, he only had 3 more PR's than Memo. Wade was also active for 4 more games than Memo as well.

    Punt Returns












    G

    GS

    Ret
    Yds

    TD
    Lng
    Y/R
    Bobby Wade


    16

    12

    16

    112

    0

    17

    7.0
    Mewelde Moore
    12


    0

    13

    130

    0

    42

    10.0
    LOL, I wasn't picking on your boy my friend.
    I just found it interesting that he had more than Memo.
    ;D

    Thanks for the stats my friend.
    You know how much I like digging into them.

    I find it interesting as wel that Memo had a long return of 42 and yet had only a 3 yard longer return avg than B-wade.

    130-42 = 88 yds.
    88 yds divided by 12 returns = 7.33333333
    Again, very interesting when one thinks about it.
    You must be practicing that new math, Marr. How is it you subtracted his longest run in determining his average?

    You simply don't knock off a punt returners longest return & then figure his average. That is what they are supposed to do. Even if you do, why is it you didn't knock off Wades longest run as well?

    Further more, lets say that you do for comparisons sake, why did you divide by 12? Basically by subtracting the 42 yarder & not subtracting a return, you gave him 0 for that return.

    It should be this..........

    130-42 = 88 yds.
    88 yds divided by [s]12[/s]
    11 returns = [s]7.33333333[/s] 8.0

    112-17 = 95 yds.
    95 yds divided by 15 returns = 6.3

    Needless to say, Memo was the better return man no matter how you slice it.
    Why can't you take away his top return.
    Truth be told, when dealing with metrics/analysis you graph out the data, throw out the high and the low to get a better feel for the ground truth.

    Again, quick acting like I am picking on your boy.
    I'm not.
    I'm just looking at stats and not slicing anything.
    You are the one who keeps running to his defence like I am trying to make him look like shit or something.
    ;D
    It's VQ's boy, not mine.

    My point is if you want to subtract the high 42 yarder, you must also subtract that return. Ergo you should have have divided that new net total by 11 returns instead of 12 returns. You did not. You divided it by the full 12.

    You also didn't subtract the highest yard return from Wade, therefore it is not an apples to apples comparison.

    Using your version of the new Marrdro math Peterson played in 14 games. Lets subtract his 296 yard rushing game, yet still divide by the full 14 games, just like you did for Memo;

    1341 - 296 = 1045. 1045 divided by 14 games = 74.6 yards per game average.

    Now lets look at Taylor's & not subtract anything just like you did for Wade;

    844 divided by 13 games = 64.9 yards per game average.

    There is only less than 10 yards average per game difference between the two RB's.

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