Injuries. The loss of Rice/Williamson threat signifacantly degraded our perceived deep threat/passing ability for what that was worth.
We had the same issues last year. Krob, the Pinkston experiment,loss of Burly etc. along with injuries to Tank, Greenway, James... that hurt our pass offense and pass defense.
Not all of the key players have been with the system, let alone the NFL for two years.
Last year for the first six games they hadn't been in the system long at all, had less talent due to Tice as you say, and still won 4 of 6. It was when they were exposed and the coaches failed to adapt to the changes in the way they were defended that we went on the downhill slide. The same thing happened this year after our Mini-win streak when San Fran exposed us.
Players/talent/scheme matchups with respect to the other team.
You always have that. Every team in the league deals with that on a weekly basis. The good ones handle it. the rest lean on it. ;D
I completely agree with you... with regards to play-calling / adjusting to what teams are doing to us... I hate this... I really would like to bring in another offensive coordinator.. i guess, i'd be willing to see what happens next year, but i'd rather have a billick / cam cameron / somebody with experience calling plays to be our O-coordinator...
it kills me that it takes like 4 games before we make adjustments... there's reason after the 49ers game that we should have been running AP out of spread formations and mixing it up alittle..
instead of just trying to pound it down the throats of people.. unsuccessfully... uterly ridiculous...
Again with the "Play Calling" and "Adjustments".
Do you really think that our coaching staff is so ignorant that they can't adjust a gameplan to what is happening on the field?
Comeon we are talking about NFL coaches with a hell of lot of experience at thier craft.
Maybe, just maybe, (I know its hard to grasp this) some of the players were not able to execute those types of changes. Or how about his one, maybe just maybe we just didn't have the right players to run those types of changes?
I find it ridiculous that we keep having this same arguement almost every week.
Was it play calling that had us move the ball at will in the Denver game only to come up with no TD's cause of Fumbles, dropped passes, blown blocks?
If it is so ludicrous to keep running the ball Off Gaurd, Off Tackle when it isn't getting anywere why did the Redskins keep doing it against us?
Ooohhh, wait, I guess because by the end of the 3rq quarter we couldn't stop them anymore.
Was it play calling in the first Lions game that resulted in all those INT's or was it crappy OL play (no protection for the QB) and poor decision making by the QB that lost it for us.
Seriously, I get just a bit ticked over this same argument.
If we are gonna have any sort of credibility as a site we need to really take a look at what we are saying.
Blame the coaches when they deserve it, cause they sure do, but gol 'darnit, lets also take a look at what the players were doing.
Sorry for the rant.
C'mon MARRDRO... i get a little or a lot ticked and having this same argument/disagreement with you my dear friend...
C'mon man.. the playcalling significantly changed the 2nd half of the Denver game.. and if you look at our formations and the playcalling it just wasn't there.. Even you buddy the great magnificent and all knowing CHiller admitted they stuck with the run too long against the skins...
Could it be?? maybe just maybe.. that our O-coordinator is inexperienced at calling plays.. haven't you noticed that with the two guys imploring our game plans and calling plays have a WHOPPING 2 years experience between the two of them at callling plays... and that coming in the last two years...
Don't blame the players on predictable boring snooze watching playcalling.. i agree with you alot of things go into running an effective offense, which include picking up blocks etc etc... but anyone could see, in those last 4 games, that our playcalling was adequate at best and when teams did the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over against us.. we did the same thing against them over and over and over and over and over... it was ridiculous...
My brother was watching the game, who by the way, knows alot more about football than you and I as he was once in the Bengals camp and allocated through them to NFL Europe (didn't make it over there due to injury) and played at Duquesne with very good stats by the way.. (plus, one of his best friends is Leigh bodden - CB for the browns where they talk football all the time) and as we watched the skins game together he just simply said, dude what's up with your playcalling..??? it's killing yall.....
Now, I'm not sure what more proof you would need than that... if he can look at one game and basically say what alot of us have been saying for a longtime...
So, while i agree with you on some points as far as picking up blocks execution.. and all that... you gotta take the blinders off, and see what kind of plays they are calling or formations they are running etc and try and see it through just sheer competence wise what they are doing...
Sh!TT i don't know more about politics than the president.. but i sure as hell know we shouldn't have went into iRAQ after 911 looking for no WOMD!!!!! and will question his judgement all day on it.. (sorry to bring politics in this)
I sure as hell know Isiah Thomas has no freakin clue what he's doing up in NY and why he hasn't been fired yet.!!!!
SO while, your defending the coaches on playcalling and scheming... and while they may know more than what we do... that doesn't mean WE as fans don't have the right to question what they are doing or simply say they are doing the same thing over and over again and that's why we're loosing bc we're predictable..... C'mon... don't be a hyprocrit and question the front office and all the other moves we made.. but then sit there and say we shouldn't question the playcalling bc they know more than we do bc they have more experience... thats a bunch of crap and you know your my dogg on this here site...
I mean... that's like blaming the dumb jiggly butt call in the saint game when Peyton called the reverse and bush had a bad toss, dude fumbles and they loose the game.. arguably costing them a shot at the playoffs and the division... then blaming that on the players.. NO!!! the call should have never been made... and they win...!!
Sorry for the rant.... lol... ahh i feel better now.. I need a cigarette.... lol..j/k