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    The colts have been weak against the run, but better vs. the pass for years. We are already decent vs. the run, and retained the side of things while hiring a guy who's expertise is our weakness...pass D. Not bad. Not real exciting, but Alan Williams just might work out fine for us.

    IF we can get some upgrades in the secondary AND then keep them healthy and out of jail!

    And, having Spielman as GM takes a lil work off of Frazier's shoulders and should give us a clearer picture of who the Scapegoat should be if we do happen to suffer another season like last. IF we get 6 or 8 wins, I'd count that as progress.
    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainviking View Post
    The colts have been weak against the run, but better vs. the pass for years. We are already decent vs. the run, and retained the side of things while hiring a guy who's expertise is our weakness...pass D. Not bad. Not real exciting, but Alan Williams just might work out fine for us.

    IF we can get some upgrades in the secondary AND then keep them healthy and out of jail!

    And, having Spielman as GM takes a lil work off of Frazier's shoulders and should give us a clearer picture of who the Scapegoat should be if we do happen to suffer another season like last. IF we get 6 or 8 wins, I'd count that as progress.
    Well yeah ... 6 or 8 wins is progress ... that is a fact. Not really any other way to take going from 3 wins to 6 or 8 wins.

    But if we don't get to 6 or 8 wins, then we have to clean house. Top to bottom. Maybe even at 6 wins you clean house depending on how competitive you were in the 10 losses.

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    If they were going to hire this guy and fire Dunbar the least they could have done for us fans is to have brought John Teerlinck back home from Indy to coach the D Line.

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    Does this guy have any coaching experience in constructive ways to deal with your girlfriend without resorting to strangulation? I hope so...
    I bet you could use a cool one huh Clark...Now you're talkin Eddie...

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    I think this was a great pick up for us. I think we needed to get to a defensive coordinator who would put much more of a emphasis on our secondary. As much as I would like to blame our coaching staff for the abysmal year, I'm having a hard time doing that. 9 of our 13 losses were decided by 7 points or less. And we all know that when a game is decided by less than a possession, it comes down to 2-3 plays. Although, our coaching staff was responsible for the first 4 losses where we blew halftime leads in all 4 games and IMO, our coaching staff failed to make the necessary adjustments in the 2nd half.

    But aside from that, how can you blame them for our rookie Ponder making the mistakes all rookies make? Ponder, in about 9.5 games (didn't finish games against Chi [2] and Washington) he threw for 13 TDs (not bad), 13 INTs (ew), and in addition lost 5 fumbles. I think Ponder's inability to hold on to the ball (like all rookies) contributed to those losses more than anything. I remember he threw some horrible balls against Oakland, Denver, and Detroit which most likely lost us those games. And even in games he wasn't committing turnovers, he failed to move the chains and posted a completion percentage of under 60% in 7 of those 11 games he played in. Our defense was constantly in a hole in most games because of our inefficiency to move and control the ball.

    4 of those 9 losses (Included Raider loss, Peterson hurt 1st quarter/early 2nd) were without our franchise player and yet we remained competitive throughout these games.

    In addition, we played with a secondary who's depth seemed to get thinner and thinner as the year went on. Starting corners beginning of the year; Griffin, Cook, Winfield, Abdullah, Sanford. Starting corners at the end of the year; Sapp, Allen, Burton/Griffin (demoted), Raymond, Sanford. I can't blame our defense for playing so bad when we were so thin in the backfield throughout the year.

    Bottomline, Frazier doesn't deserve to be on the hot seat when he is not only a first year head coach, but playing with a first year QB, depleted O-Line, and injury riddled Defensive backfield. I think the competitiveness this team showed throughout the year will carry on into next year's 2012 and 2013 year.

    Bringing in Alan Williams was a move I didn't think was "great" but wasn't bad either. I think our secondary needs to be the focus of our team now. I'm sick of watching our defense get picked apart by quarterbacks on the weekly basis. We're in a new system, give it time to develop before we start bashing this coaching staff and demanding for their heads. After all, this is our first season with a GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b_sandhar_29 View Post
    Although, our coaching staff was responsible for the first 4 losses where we blew halftime leads in all 4 games and IMO, our coaching staff failed to make the necessary adjustments in the 2nd half.
    Halftime adjustments are completely overrated. The players failed in those games just as much as the coaches did.
    I am NOT here to provide good football insight or rational observations. I am an emotional 19 year old Viking fan and I expect you to adjust your expectations from my posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12purplepride28 View Post
    Halftime adjustments are completely overrated. The players failed in those games just as much as the coaches did.
    I completely disagree with you on this one 12 28. The coaches are responsible for putting the players in a position to succeed. If they can not figure out what the other team is doing, or adjust to the changes the other team is making, the players on the field have no chance. The players are on the field playing within the confines of the plays the coaches are calling. They are not out there to determine what play the other team might be calling and calling their own defenses. They do adjust to the offensive/defensive sets, but the player packages are already in place, so there are limitations to what they can do.
    The early part of this year seemed to be proof of what halftime adjustments can do for a team. We continually dominated teams in the first half of the games only to be outwitted the second halves of the first five games. We did not retool our rosters at halftime. The same players were out there, but the coaches could not think on the fly and counter the adjustments the other teams made at halftime.
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshallvike View Post
    I completely disagree with you on this one 12 28. The coaches are responsible for putting the players in a position to succeed. If they can not figure out what the other team is doing, or adjust to the changes the other team is making, the players on the field have no chance. The players are on the field playing within the confines of the plays the coaches are calling. They are not out there to determine what play the other team might be calling and calling their own defenses. They do adjust to the offensive/defensive sets, but the player packages are already in place, so there are limitations to what they can do.
    The early part of this year seemed to be proof of what halftime adjustments can do for a team. We continually dominated teams in the first half of the games only to be outwitted the second halves of the first five games. We did not retool our rosters at halftime. The same players were out there, but the coaches could not think on the fly and counter the adjustments the other teams made at halftime.
    I agree. The team that dominates the first 5 to 10 minutes of the second half almost always wins the game.

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    OH HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET!!!

    I think what everyone is failing to remember is that aside from our strong efforts in coming back only to loose by less than 1 possession... People forget the HUGE 1st half deficits and the energy and ridiculous combacks it took to even get within one possession. The First and second half lapses that this team went through where they looked lost and unprepared was by far the biggest thing that worries alot of people about this football team.

    The comebacks are proof if anything that there is talent on this team. But in many games we played the other teams were on cruise control up 20+ points then all of a sudden we decided we wanted to start paying good football...

    Then when you put in the coaching blips like the non-challenges/dumb challenges, head scratching play calls (4th and 1 anyone??), personnel in the game during key drives (i.e. not having Peterson, Harvin, Rudolph, etc. in the game when the game is on the line), coaches missing meetings, players ignoring playcalls, etc. goes to justifiy had bad this coaching staff actually is...

    So many ppl have on their purple glasses trying to sell hope a, which is fine, but let's not forget how many boneheaded things this staff did on a continuous basis.... My biggest pet peave is how they didn't use our best personnel in key situations... That is inexcusable!!..

    Not sure where all this optimism about the coaching staff is coming from.. Go back and watch the games and you will be reminded...

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    Tampa 2 ... more of the same futility.

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