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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

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    I agree that Rice leaving could hurt the Vikings. In fact no doubt it will. OTOH, he is going to be expensive and the Vikings do not currently have the cap to re-sign him. I know they have a lot of work to do over the next few days to iron things out.

    There are other WRs in the free agent market that would cost less and may be as effective. Malcomb Floyd has good hands and is a threat in the endzone for one.

    Regardless the Vikings need someone that can stretch the field to allor AP and Percy to do their damage. The 2 TE set will definitely help if Ponder will be the man. Regardless they need a deep threat to keep defenses honest.

    I have mixed thoughts towards Rice. Losing him may suck but it may also be a blessing. Let's face it. As much as I like Rice and what he did in 2009 he really hasn't done much since. He's made some plays. Don't get me wrong. However, he's also had his share of injuries.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, Floyd is a RFA. Sure he will be a BIT cheaper than Rice, but he will cost us in other ways as well.

    On another note, Rice isn't a deep threat. He is a middle of the field (3, 4, 5, 6, 7 route) possesion reciever who doesn't beat players with his speed but rather uses his strenght/height to win the ball, especially in the end zone.
    Not positive about Floyd so good point. As to Rice, I don't think I was saying he could stretch the field. He has been known to go deep but by no means is he a speedster. However, Aromashando is pretty quick and can supply that field stretching.
    Floyd is unrestricted.

    As a matter of face ... I believe ALL free agents were ruled UFAs with the new agreement.
    not quite. THey went back to old RFA rules. So anyone with 4 years of experience in unrestricted. All players with less are RFAs. so for us, Abdullah would still be an RFA (who his agent said will 100% sign his tender Friday)

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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

    Rice has other suitors.

    Sam Bradford has reportedly been pushing for big target down the field, and Rice makes a lot more sense than Plaxico Burress. Per Clayton, Rice is becoming the big story of the day, and there may even be another team or two involved. Earlier reports suggested the Seahawks will set the value for Rice, pending a physical.
    Source: Chris Wesseling
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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

    So Rice left for the Asshawks. I guess let them overpay him instead of us. So now the Asshawks took TJack and Rice plus I've heard rumors of them being interested in Ray Edwards.

    The good thing is because of them overpaying two and now possibly a third Viking the Asshawks are helping us get decent compensatory picks for next year.

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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

    Quote Originally Posted by "ejmat" #1101619
    So Rice left for the Asshawks. I guess let them overpay him instead of us. So now the Asshawks took TJack and Rice plus I've heard rumors of them being interested in Ray Edwards.

    The good thing is because of them overpaying two and now possibly a third Viking the Asshawks are helping us get decent compensatory picks for next year.
    When you are sitting with the 2nd most cap space and have to spend almost all of it, over spending isn't an issue.

    Gallery and Rice are clear indicators they are going to get who they are targeting.
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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

    July, 27, 2011
    By Kevin Seifert
    I wish I could put my finger on it. For more than a year, something has been off between the Minnesota Vikings and Sidney Rice.

    A frost began developing after the 2009 NFC Championship Game, during which Rice suffered a hip injury that eventually required major surgery. It never thawed, and for that reason it came as no surprise Wednesday night when Rice agreed to terms on a free agent contract with the Seattle Seahawks. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported the deal includes $18.5 million in guarantees.
    Bruce Kluckhohn/US PresswireIt looks like Sidney Rice was eager to leave the Minnesota Vikings.Like all other contracts, the agreement is pending a physical. Rice's will be a little more important than most; microfracture surgery on a hip is no small procedure. I know for a fact the Vikings were concerned about the long-term implications, and I can make an educated guess that Rice resented that concern, even after the injury caused him to miss more than half of the 2010 season. That injury played a big role in the Vikings deciding against a contract before the 2010 season. No player likes to hear such news.

    At some point, I also think Rice also grew weary of thinly veiled implications last season from former coach Brad Childress, who questioned the timing of Rice's decision to have surgery and later suggested Rice wasn't as eager to return from rehabilitation as he should have. Rice eventually wrote a blog post for his personal website with this headline: "A Bunch of Bull."
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/28946/face-it-sidney-rice-wanted-out
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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1101628
    July, 27, 2011
    By Kevin Seifert
    I wish I could put my finger on it. For more than a year, something has been off between the Minnesota Vikings and Sidney Rice.

    A frost began developing after the 2009 NFC Championship Game, during which Rice suffered a hip injury that eventually required major surgery. It never thawed, and for that reason it came as no surprise Wednesday night when Rice agreed to terms on a free agent contract with the Seattle Seahawks. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported the deal includes $18.5 million in guarantees.
    Bruce Kluckhohn/US PresswireIt looks like Sidney Rice was eager to leave the Minnesota Vikings.Like all other contracts, the agreement is pending a physical. Rice's will be a little more important than most; microfracture surgery on a hip is no small procedure. I know for a fact the Vikings were concerned about the long-term implications, and I can make an educated guess that Rice resented that concern, even after the injury caused him to miss more than half of the 2010 season. That injury played a big role in the Vikings deciding against a contract before the 2010 season. No player likes to hear such news.

    At some point, I also think Rice also grew weary of thinly veiled implications last season from former coach Brad Childress, who questioned the timing of Rice's decision to have surgery and later suggested Rice wasn't as eager to return from rehabilitation as he should have. Rice eventually wrote a blog post for his personal website with this headline: "A Bunch of Bull."
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/28946/face-it-sidney-rice-wanted-out
    So, essentially, he's a whiney-assed wuss.

    I doubt we'll miss him. He'll wind up like Burleson...way over compensated by the Seahawks.

    Caine

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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1101631
    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1101628
    July, 27, 2011
    By Kevin Seifert
    I wish I could put my finger on it. For more than a year, something has been off between the Minnesota Vikings and Sidney Rice.

    A frost began developing after the 2009 NFC Championship Game, during which Rice suffered a hip injury that eventually required major surgery. It never thawed, and for that reason it came as no surprise Wednesday night when Rice agreed to terms on a free agent contract with the Seattle Seahawks. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported the deal includes $18.5 million in guarantees.
    Bruce Kluckhohn/US PresswireIt looks like Sidney Rice was eager to leave the Minnesota Vikings.Like all other contracts, the agreement is pending a physical. Rice's will be a little more important than most; microfracture surgery on a hip is no small procedure. I know for a fact the Vikings were concerned about the long-term implications, and I can make an educated guess that Rice resented that concern, even after the injury caused him to miss more than half of the 2010 season. That injury played a big role in the Vikings deciding against a contract before the 2010 season. No player likes to hear such news.

    At some point, I also think Rice also grew weary of thinly veiled implications last season from former coach Brad Childress, who questioned the timing of Rice's decision to have surgery and later suggested Rice wasn't as eager to return from rehabilitation as he should have. Rice eventually wrote a blog post for his personal website with this headline: "A Bunch of Bull."
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/28946/face-it-sidney-rice-wanted-out
    So, essentially, he's a whiney-assed wuss.

    I doubt we'll miss him. He'll wind up like Burleson...way over compensated by the Seahawks.

    Caine
    He definitely came off as a whiner and a "me-first" type last season. I still wanted him back. But seriously, when he came back, he clearly did not care and did not play very hard. He missed a few games late just because ... even though he claimed injury ... again.

    I do not get it. He could have been a star and universally loved here after his breakout year. Instead he dicked around with an injury. Came back. Whined about how he was "treated" and left town.

    I don't know if he will ever live up to what he could have been, and now that he is gone, I hope he doesn't.

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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1101633
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1101631
    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1101628
    July, 27, 2011
    By Kevin Seifert
    I wish I could put my finger on it. For more than a year, something has been off between the Minnesota Vikings and Sidney Rice.

    A frost began developing after the 2009 NFC Championship Game, during which Rice suffered a hip injury that eventually required major surgery. It never thawed, and for that reason it came as no surprise Wednesday night when Rice agreed to terms on a free agent contract with the Seattle Seahawks. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported the deal includes $18.5 million in guarantees.
    Bruce Kluckhohn/US PresswireIt looks like Sidney Rice was eager to leave the Minnesota Vikings.Like all other contracts, the agreement is pending a physical. Rice's will be a little more important than most; microfracture surgery on a hip is no small procedure. I know for a fact the Vikings were concerned about the long-term implications, and I can make an educated guess that Rice resented that concern, even after the injury caused him to miss more than half of the 2010 season. That injury played a big role in the Vikings deciding against a contract before the 2010 season. No player likes to hear such news.

    At some point, I also think Rice also grew weary of thinly veiled implications last season from former coach Brad Childress, who questioned the timing of Rice's decision to have surgery and later suggested Rice wasn't as eager to return from rehabilitation as he should have. Rice eventually wrote a blog post for his personal website with this headline: "A Bunch of Bull."
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/28946/face-it-sidney-rice-wanted-out
    So, essentially, he's a whiney-assed wuss.

    I doubt we'll miss him. He'll wind up like Burleson...way over compensated by the Seahawks.

    Caine
    He definitely came off as a whiner and a "me-first" type last season. I still wanted him back. But seriously, when he came back, he clearly did not care and did not play very hard. He missed a few games late just because ... even though he claimed injury ... again.

    I do not get it. He could have been a star and universally loved here after his breakout year. Instead he dicked around with an injury. Came back. Whined about how he was "treated" and left town.

    I don't know if he will ever live up to what he could have been, and now that he is gone, I hope he doesn't.
    He's entitled to go for the money and I don't begrudge him that.
    But the way he played the Vikings to get his money has made him one of my least favorite NFL players.
    I have his jersey and I'm giving it to a homeless person.
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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1101638
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1101633
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1101631
    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1101628
    July, 27, 2011
    By Kevin Seifert
    I wish I could put my finger on it. For more than a year, something has been off between the Minnesota Vikings and Sidney Rice.

    A frost began developing after the 2009 NFC Championship Game, during which Rice suffered a hip injury that eventually required major surgery. It never thawed, and for that reason it came as no surprise Wednesday night when Rice agreed to terms on a free agent contract with the Seattle Seahawks. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported the deal includes $18.5 million in guarantees.
    Bruce Kluckhohn/US PresswireIt looks like Sidney Rice was eager to leave the Minnesota Vikings.Like all other contracts, the agreement is pending a physical. Rice's will be a little more important than most; microfracture surgery on a hip is no small procedure. I know for a fact the Vikings were concerned about the long-term implications, and I can make an educated guess that Rice resented that concern, even after the injury caused him to miss more than half of the 2010 season. That injury played a big role in the Vikings deciding against a contract before the 2010 season. No player likes to hear such news.

    At some point, I also think Rice also grew weary of thinly veiled implications last season from former coach Brad Childress, who questioned the timing of Rice's decision to have surgery and later suggested Rice wasn't as eager to return from rehabilitation as he should have. Rice eventually wrote a blog post for his personal website with this headline: "A Bunch of Bull."
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/28946/face-it-sidney-rice-wanted-out
    So, essentially, he's a whiney-assed wuss.

    I doubt we'll miss him. He'll wind up like Burleson...way over compensated by the Seahawks.

    Caine
    He definitely came off as a whiner and a "me-first" type last season. I still wanted him back. But seriously, when he came back, he clearly did not care and did not play very hard. He missed a few games late just because ... even though he claimed injury ... again.

    I do not get it. He could have been a star and universally loved here after his breakout year. Instead he dicked around with an injury. Came back. Whined about how he was "treated" and left town.

    I don't know if he will ever live up to what he could have been, and now that he is gone, I hope he doesn't.
    He's entitled to go for the money and I don't begrudge him that.
    But the way he played the Vikings to get his money has made him one of my least favorite NFL players.
    I have his jersey and I'm giving it to a homeless person.
    Why hate on the homeless? What did they ever do to you?

    B)

    Caine

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    Re: Vikings growing concerned Rice will leave

    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1101640
    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1101638
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1101633
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1101631
    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1101628
    July, 27, 2011
    By Kevin Seifert
    I wish I could put my finger on it. For more than a year, something has been off between the Minnesota Vikings and Sidney Rice.

    A frost began developing after the 2009 NFC Championship Game, during which Rice suffered a hip injury that eventually required major surgery. It never thawed, and for that reason it came as no surprise Wednesday night when Rice agreed to terms on a free agent contract with the Seattle Seahawks. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported the deal includes $18.5 million in guarantees.
    Bruce Kluckhohn/US PresswireIt looks like Sidney Rice was eager to leave the Minnesota Vikings.Like all other contracts, the agreement is pending a physical. Rice's will be a little more important than most; microfracture surgery on a hip is no small procedure. I know for a fact the Vikings were concerned about the long-term implications, and I can make an educated guess that Rice resented that concern, even after the injury caused him to miss more than half of the 2010 season. That injury played a big role in the Vikings deciding against a contract before the 2010 season. No player likes to hear such news.

    At some point, I also think Rice also grew weary of thinly veiled implications last season from former coach Brad Childress, who questioned the timing of Rice's decision to have surgery and later suggested Rice wasn't as eager to return from rehabilitation as he should have. Rice eventually wrote a blog post for his personal website with this headline: "A Bunch of Bull."
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/28946/face-it-sidney-rice-wanted-out
    So, essentially, he's a whiney-assed wuss.

    I doubt we'll miss him. He'll wind up like Burleson...way over compensated by the Seahawks.

    Caine
    He definitely came off as a whiner and a "me-first" type last season. I still wanted him back. But seriously, when he came back, he clearly did not care and did not play very hard. He missed a few games late just because ... even though he claimed injury ... again.

    I do not get it. He could have been a star and universally loved here after his breakout year. Instead he dicked around with an injury. Came back. Whined about how he was "treated" and left town.

    I don't know if he will ever live up to what he could have been, and now that he is gone, I hope he doesn't.
    He's entitled to go for the money and I don't begrudge him that.
    But the way he played the Vikings to get his money has made him one of my least favorite NFL players.
    I have his jersey and I'm giving it to a homeless person.
    Why hate on the homeless? What did they ever do to you?

    B)

    Caine
    I don't care that he left for the money. In fact, I'm happy about it. That should give us a very good compensatory pick next year. It's better the Asshawks overpay him than us. We'll see how he likes TJack throwing to him over McNabb then eventually Ponder. Stupid move for his career. Smart move for his future (moneywise). Hopefully we just get one of the 3 WRs we are looking at and I will be just fine with that.

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