Don't get me wrong.....You can complain on here if you only make one post. That was just my way of saying I'd like to see more of them thats all.Quote:
Originally Posted by derek
Only way you can climb the spreadsheets......:)
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Don't get me wrong.....You can complain on here if you only make one post. That was just my way of saying I'd like to see more of them thats all.Quote:
Originally Posted by derek
Only way you can climb the spreadsheets......:)
Which is, of course, the ultimate goal of every poster on PPO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marrdro
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Admit it, you wonder were you stand on all of them. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Hold on there Sheldon. How did you squeeze that into the agreement?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marrdro
He doesn't have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marrdro
It's simple, if you agree with Marrdro or think along the same lines as him, you're near the top. If it's only sometimes, you're in the middle. If it's seldom or never, well you're near or at the bottom.
:)
Wrong again. Everyone is at the top. You must not be paying attention. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by singersp
LOL, it was implied. Nothing was said about compliments, just hacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by marshallvike
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Originally Posted by pack93z" "Originally Posted by pack93z
Outside looking in perspective.. his dealt hand hasn't exactly been one to win directly with. Reality is that the Viking had a window to win it, got damn close. They rolled the dice with the Allen Trade, Favre and honestly experienced some bad luck with injuries to promising players like Rice.
They are a deficient team in terms of offensive skill players beyond Harvin and AP; Ponder and Rudolph will develop. They have a couple of chips on the edges for the offensive line, but honestly they are still works in progress.
On defense, the Williams wall couldn't hold up forever.. they have some good individual talent on defense but again are playing youth again. Allen and EJ are still very good players.. but scheme around them. Personally and I know this sounds anti progression, but I would try and move Allen while he still holds premium value. Continue to reload via the draft, develop and within the time Ponder is ready to hit his prime, you will have a core of players coming into their prime and can make another run.
The division is going to see the Bears flame out soon, and the Lions I think had a chance to grab ahold of consistency, but their coach is going to work against them. That leaves the Packers whom are going to hit a crossroads soon with a bunch of talent and will need to make some decisions. A mini rebuild as you will..
I think you window is about two years from now.. the 2014 season.. why not acquire as much talent to mature at once?
In other words, I think Frazier is a quality NFL coach.. growing pains in which inconsistency is prevalent, but in my opinion that is part of a rebuilt. We the Packers are just a few seasons removed from that.. MM looked like a joke. Building a winner in this league takes time.. I think Frazier should be afforded more.
Recovering from Chilly is not an overnight deal.. my opinion."
[QUOTE=derek;1128862
so....now that the regular season is over, like i said...lets revisit this post honestly and fairly. Were those who were in the 'instant gratification-we're going in the wrong direction=fire leslie' camp more accurate, or were those in the 'this is still a rebuilding year after the previous coach-let Leslie stay and give HIS seeds a chance to grow' camp more accurate?
10-6 and in the playoffs when almost no-one, including myself- expected that. This team may not have a whole lot of big names, and may have less talent & experience than many teams at crucial positions...but this team has the right attitude, the right 'no-give-up' gusto, the right approach....and in my opinion...the right coach.
[QUOTE=derek;1133987][QUOTE=pack93z" "Originally Posted by pack93z
Outside looking in perspective.. his dealt hand hasn't exactly been one to win directly with. Reality is that the Viking had a window to win it, got damn close. They rolled the dice with the Allen Trade, Favre and honestly experienced some bad luck with injuries to promising players like Rice.
They are a deficient team in terms of offensive skill players beyond Harvin and AP; Ponder and Rudolph will develop. They have a couple of chips on the edges for the offensive line, but honestly they are still works in progress.
On defense, the Williams wall couldn't hold up forever.. they have some good individual talent on defense but again are playing youth again. Allen and EJ are still very good players.. but scheme around them. Personally and I know this sounds anti progression, but I would try and move Allen while he still holds premium value. Continue to reload via the draft, develop and within the time Ponder is ready to hit his prime, you will have a core of players coming into their prime and can make another run.
The division is going to see the Bears flame out soon, and the Lions I think had a chance to grab ahold of consistency, but their coach is going to work against them. That leaves the Packers whom are going to hit a crossroads soon with a bunch of talent and will need to make some decisions. A mini rebuild as you will..
I think you window is about two years from now.. the 2014 season.. why not acquire as much talent to mature at once?
In other words, I think Frazier is a quality NFL coach.. growing pains in which inconsistency is prevalent, but in my opinion that is part of a rebuilt. We the Packers are just a few seasons removed from that.. MM looked like a joke. Building a winner in this league takes time.. I think Frazier should be afforded more.
Recovering from Chilly is not an overnight deal.. my opinion."
so....now that the regular season is over, like i said...lets revisit this post honestly and fairly. Were those who were in the 'instant gratification-we're going in the wrong direction=fire leslie' camp more accurate, or were those in the 'this is still a rebuilding year after the previous coach-let Leslie stay and give HIS seeds a chance to grow' camp more accurate?
10-6 and in the playoffs when almost no-one, including myself- expected that. This team may not have a whole lot of big names, and may have less talent & experience than many teams at crucial positions...but this team has the right attitude, the right 'no-give-up' gusto, the right approach....and in my opinion...the right coach.[/QUOTE]
Nice call. Hope you didn't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back ! Just kidding.
SKOL VIKINGS !
Going to the playoffs under Leslie Frazier. Right now, no need to look for another HC.Quote:
Originally Posted by singersp