Thread: Vikings front office: Four on the floor

"singersp" wrote:

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"Vikes_King" wrote:

perfect time to throw out my favorite stat

Last year the starting 22 players for the Colts that won the Super Bowl had only played for the Colts, no other team.


Building through the draft is the best option, and with our front office we should be able to continue to do so

Excellent point.

I think that is what this staff is trying to do. The problem lies in the fact that they (previous regime) didn't draft well in the out years.


We are not feeling the effects of that and will have to plug a few holes with FA (WR, DE) because of it.

I wish more people would realize that.
There are still some people on this board who think Tice was a better HC than Childress simply because his second season record was better.
:
They forget that Tice was reaping the benefits of Denny's drafts, and Childress is suffering still because of Tice's...

LOL! Yeah I can see where you think inheriting the following players made Childress suffer
: ;

Kenechi Udeze
Mewelde Moore
Kevin Williams
E.J. Henderson
Bryant McKinnie
Pat Williams
Antoine Winfield


Childress' 2006 roster;

CB/S
Rashad Baker
C/T
Matt Birk
S
Greg Blue
QB
Brooks Bollinger
WR
Jason Carter
C
Ryan Cook
LB
Marquis Cooper
LB
Rod Davis
TE/FB
Jeff Dugan
DE
Ray Edwards
LB
Heath Farwell
RB
Ciatrick Fason
LB
Jason Glenn
CB
Charles Gordon
CB
Cedric Griffin
LB
Napoleon Harris
LB
E. J. Henderson
C
Anthony Herrera
T
Artis Hicks
S
Will Hunter
G
Steve Hutchinson
QB
Tarvaris Jackson
DE
Erasmus James
WR
Bethel Johnson
QB
Brad Johnson
G
Marcus Johnson
DT/NT
Spencer Johnson
TE/HB/RB
Jimmy Kleinsasser
P
Chris Kluwe
DT
Ross Kolodziej
LB
Ben Leber
C
Cullen Loeffler
K
Ryan Longwell
WR
Maurice Mann
T
Bryant McKinnie
WR
Billy McMullen
DE
Jayme Mitchell
RB
Mewelde Moore
WR
Martin Nance
TE
Richard Owens
RB
Artose Pinner
FB/RB
Tony Richardson
WR
Marcus Robinson
G/T
Mike Rosenthal
DE
Darrion Scott
S/CB
Darren Sharper
CB
Dwight Smith
DE
Khreem Smith
CB
Fred Smoot
RB
Chester Taylor
WR
Travis Taylor
LB
Dontarrious Thomas
DE
Kenechi Udeze
CB
Ronyell Whitaker
T
Jason Whittle
TE/RB
Jermaine Wiggins
DT
Kevin Williams
DT/NT
Pat Williams
WR
Troy Williamson
CB
Antoine Winfield


Tice's 2002 roster;

WR
Derrick Alexander
K
Gary Anderson
WR
D'Wayne Bates
RB
Michael Bennett
LB
Greg Biekert
C/T
Matt Birk
QB
Todd Bouman
CB
Ronnie Bradford
S
Jack Brewer
K
Doug Brien
DE
Lorenzo Bromell
WR
Kelly Campbell
CB/S
Tyrone Carter
TE
Matt Cercone
WR
Byron Chamberlain
RB
Doug Chapman
S
Corey Chavous
LB
Patrick Chukwurah
LB
Henri Crockett
QB
Daunte Culpepper
WR
Nick Davis
G/T
David Dixon
K
Hayden Epstein
TE
Hunter Goodwin
T
Adam Haayer
LB
Lemanski Hall
DT
Darius Holland
DT/NT
Chris Hovan
WR
Cedric James
DE
Lance Johnstone
CB
Eric Kelly
G/T
Lewis Kelly
RB/HB
Jimmy Kleinsasser
G
Corbin Lacina
TE
Brody Liddiard
G/C
Everett Lindsay
G/T
Chris Liwienski
T
Bryant McKinnie
DE
Kenny Mixon
FB
Harold Morrow
WR
Randy Moss
LB
Jim Nelson
S
Willie Offord
S
Jason Perry
P
Kyle Richardson
NT
Fred Robbins
LB
Nick Rogers
S
Brian Russell
DE
Talance Sawyer
CB
Carey Scott
WR
Chris Walsh
DE
Chuck Wiley
CB
Brian Williams
RB
Moe Williams
LB
Antonio Wilson
C
Cory Withrow
RB
James Wofford


What he did inherit was the worthless coaching staff that Tice had to work with under Red's budget. Tice never had the luxury of Wilf's pocket book to aquire decent coaches.

I thought you were only talking about guys he had drafted. He didn't draft these guys.

"davike" wrote:

"singersp" wrote:

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"Vikes_King" wrote:

perfect time to throw out my favorite stat

Last year the starting 22 players for the Colts that won the Super Bowl had only played for the Colts, no other team.


Building through the draft is the best option, and with our front office we should be able to continue to do so

Excellent point.

I think that is what this staff is trying to do. The problem lies in the fact that they (previous regime) didn't draft well in the out years.


We are not feeling the effects of that and will have to plug a few holes with FA (WR, DE) because of it.

I wish more people would realize that.
There are still some people on this board who think Tice was a better HC than Childress simply because his second season record was better.
:
They forget that Tice was reaping the benefits of Denny's drafts, and Childress is suffering still because of Tice's...

LOL! Yeah I can see where you think inheriting the following players made Childress suffer
: ;

Kenechi Udeze
Mewelde Moore
Kevin Williams
E.J. Henderson
Bryant McKinnie
Pat Williams
Antoine Winfield


Childress' 2006 roster;

CB/S
Rashad Baker
C/T
Matt Birk
S
Greg Blue
QB
Brooks Bollinger
WR
Jason Carter
C
Ryan Cook
LB
Marquis Cooper
LB
Rod Davis
TE/FB
Jeff Dugan
DE
Ray Edwards
LB
Heath Farwell
RB
Ciatrick Fason
LB
Jason Glenn
CB
Charles Gordon
CB
Cedric Griffin
LB
Napoleon Harris
LB
E. J. Henderson
C
Anthony Herrera
T
Artis Hicks
S
Will Hunter
G
Steve Hutchinson
QB
Tarvaris Jackson
DE
Erasmus James
WR
Bethel Johnson
QB
Brad Johnson
G
Marcus Johnson
DT/NT
Spencer Johnson
TE/HB/RB
Jimmy Kleinsasser
P
Chris Kluwe
DT
Ross Kolodziej
LB
Ben Leber
C
Cullen Loeffler
K
Ryan Longwell
WR
Maurice Mann
T
Bryant McKinnie
WR
Billy McMullen
DE
Jayme Mitchell
RB
Mewelde Moore
WR
Martin Nance
TE
Richard Owens
RB
Artose Pinner
FB/RB
Tony Richardson
WR
Marcus Robinson
G/T
Mike Rosenthal
DE
Darrion Scott
S/CB
Darren Sharper
CB
Dwight Smith
DE
Khreem Smith
CB
Fred Smoot
RB
Chester Taylor
WR
Travis Taylor
LB
Dontarrious Thomas
DE
Kenechi Udeze
CB
Ronyell Whitaker
T
Jason Whittle
TE/RB
Jermaine Wiggins
DT
Kevin Williams
DT/NT
Pat Williams
WR
Troy Williamson
CB
Antoine Winfield


Tice's 2002 roster;

WR
Derrick Alexander
K
Gary Anderson
WR
D'Wayne Bates
RB
Michael Bennett
LB
Greg Biekert
C/T
Matt Birk
QB
Todd Bouman
CB
Ronnie Bradford
S
Jack Brewer
K
Doug Brien
DE
Lorenzo Bromell
WR
Kelly Campbell
CB/S
Tyrone Carter
TE
Matt Cercone
WR
Byron Chamberlain
RB
Doug Chapman
S
Corey Chavous
LB
Patrick Chukwurah
LB
Henri Crockett
QB
Daunte Culpepper
WR
Nick Davis
G/T
David Dixon
K
Hayden Epstein
TE
Hunter Goodwin
T
Adam Haayer
LB
Lemanski Hall
DT
Darius Holland
DT/NT
Chris Hovan
WR
Cedric James
DE
Lance Johnstone
CB
Eric Kelly
G/T
Lewis Kelly
RB/HB
Jimmy Kleinsasser
G
Corbin Lacina
TE
Brody Liddiard
G/C
Everett Lindsay
G/T
Chris Liwienski
T
Bryant McKinnie
DE
Kenny Mixon
FB
Harold Morrow
WR
Randy Moss
LB
Jim Nelson
S
Willie Offord
S
Jason Perry
P
Kyle Richardson
NT
Fred Robbins
LB
Nick Rogers
S
Brian Russell
DE
Talance Sawyer
CB
Carey Scott
WR
Chris Walsh
DE
Chuck Wiley
CB
Brian Williams
RB
Moe Williams
LB
Antonio Wilson
C
Cory Withrow
RB
James Wofford


What he did inherit was the worthless coaching staff that Tice had to work with under Red's budget. Tice never had the luxury of Wilf's pocket book to aquire decent coaches.

I thought you were only talking about guys he had drafted. He didn't draft these guys.

We were.
Singer raise the stakes a bit.
;D

What was Phat Pat doing before Childress and company took over?
Truth be told nothing.
Our Defense sucked with both of Will brothers working in tandem.

Talk about using your players to thier strenghts.

2005
NAME





TOT SOLO AST SACK TLOSS
Pat Williams

67

43

24
1.5


9
Kevin Williams 42

30

12
4.0


2

2006
Pat Williams

44

37

7

1.0

9

Kevin Williams 36

29

7

5.0

6

2007
Pat Williams

64


44
20
2.0

11
Kevin Williams 38


30

8

3.0

4