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    Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/21/offseason-priorities-minnesota-vikings/
    Placing the franchise tag on linebacker Chad Greenway was the first domino to drop for the Vikings this offseason.

    Keeping the rest of Minnesotaís key players will be a lot more difficult. Letís take a look at their free agent priorities.

    We all knew the time would come for this to happen. It will be interested to see if the FO continues to spend in FA to fill holes or whether they decide to focus on stocking up on draft picks and rebuilding through youth they develop.

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    Re: Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    Might not be able to stockpile picks or sign the players.

    If these players take a mass exodus, what are we going to trade to stockpile picks?

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    Re: Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    Maybe it would be time to see what players we could trade for multiple picks. We have a few guys on the team that we could probably deal to a contending team if we are having to rebuild anyway.

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    Re: Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    I'm still not that worried.

    If we can resign Edwards it's a plus. We're losing about 50% of a player in Williams.

    If we lose Rice it's a big blow IMO, but I don't think he's going anywhere, tbh.


    Once we start losing players, then I'll worry.

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    Re: Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    There's no one on that list that is irreplaceable.

    Rice has played well...when he's played. But how fragile is he really? Can he make it through a full season? And if we lose him, is that really such a bad thing? He's got great hands, but his speed isn't all that impressive.

    Pat Williams..only plays rushing downs anyway. It's time to find a new NT.

    Leber - IMO may be the most important guy on that list. Not a great Linebacker, but damn solid. I like Ben and hope he stays.

    Longwell - Love his FG's, not tickled about his KO's. But dependable Kickers are tough to find. And he shouldn't break the bank.

    Jackson - He won't be back. If he is, it'll be cheap, and because no one wants him, which kills all hope for him ever being a legit starter (I don't think he ever will be...but who knows).

    Madieu Williams - Never seemed to live up to the hype. Again, this isn't a huge loss.

    Camarillo - didn't impress me.

    Lewis - please, enough with Eagles Wash-outs!!!

    Berrian - He hasn't been cut yet?

    So, all in all, what are we really LOSING? We getting rid of a lot of guys who haven't lived up to expectations, or who have dropped off in production. Even if we lose ALL of them, who - aside from Rice and Longwell - has been all that valuable to us?

    Fact is, these were people we were going to have to look at replacing ANYWAY.

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    Re: Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1089995
    There's no one on that list that is irreplaceable.

    Rice has played well...when he's played. But how fragile is he really? Can he make it through a full season? And if we lose him, is that really such a bad thing? He's got great hands, but his speed isn't all that impressive.

    Pat Williams..only plays rushing downs anyway. It's time to find a new NT.

    Leber - IMO may be the most important guy on that list. Not a great Linebacker, but damn solid. I like Ben and hope he stays.

    Longwell - Love his FG's, not tickled about his KO's. But dependable Kickers are tough to find. And he shouldn't break the bank.

    Jackson - He won't be back. If he is, it'll be cheap, and because no one wants him, which kills all hope for him ever being a legit starter (I don't think he ever will be...but who knows).

    Madieu Williams - Never seemed to live up to the hype. Again, this isn't a huge loss.

    Camarillo - didn't impress me.

    Lewis - please, enough with Eagles Wash-outs!!!

    Berrian - He hasn't been cut yet?

    So, all in all, what are we really LOSING? We getting rid of a lot of guys who haven't lived up to expectations, or who have dropped off in production. Even if we lose ALL of them, who - aside from Rice and Longwell - has been all that valuable to us?

    Fact is, these were people we were going to have to look at replacing ANYWAY.

    Caine
    But these are all guys Chilly hand picked because they fit his "system" Had he not gotten canned they would have formed the team nucleus for a decade of KAO and AKD ( Ass kicking defense. Yeah, I just made that up)

    I agree that we would not be losing any superstars, it is just sad to think we are at this point and that is a big chunk of the depth we have developed.

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    Re: Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    If we lose Rice, it is devastating. You saw what happened this past season without him. I agree he seems fragile, but he is not only our best receiver, when healthy he is one of the best in the league. With nothing to replace him, we cannot afford to lose him unless we are aiming for a high draft pick.
    I felt the same about Pat until it was leaked that he played hurt all season. maybe he still has another good season or two in him. Wouldn't kill me if he was gone, if last year was truely indicative of his present ability.
    Ray is a solid DE. I would like to see us keep him, but he may get more than he is worth.
    I agree with you on Leber and Longwell. Leber has been solid since he has been here. It is worth it to overpay a little to keep him. Does anyone think he will get huge money?
    I still think TJ is better than any backup we can aquire this offseason.
    Madieu,Camarillo, Lewis agreed. See ya.
    Berrian is what he is. Never had great hands. Not even good hands. We had to give him the money we did. We were in desperate need of a fast receiver and he was the best available at the time. Overdue to be cut. If we lose Sidney we could end up in the same situation again.
    You never want to lose too many players in the offseason. Even below average players are important when they have been with your team. good to have some turnover. not good to have too much
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Re: Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    I think that the KAO has skewed peoples perception of Rice due to the fact that the WR's have been so piss poor that any production looks fantastic.

    In 4 seasons Rice has 146 catches for a little over 2100 yards and 18 TD's. His best single season was 83 catches for 1300 yards and 8 td's.

    Now that is decent production for sure, but not the kind of numbers I would throw the checkbook at considering the other 3 years were very very pedestrian.

    If he had tied a few years together with the sort of production that he had in 2009 then I would feel different. I like Rice and hope he does well. If the Vikings do sign him I will be happy because I have always like the way he plays when healthy, but if the team sees a risk and decides to go another direction it won't bother me either.

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    Re: Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    From Mike Florio

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/21/vikings-cant-use-transition-tag-on-sidney-rice/

    A league source recently explained to us that the extra transition tag under the rules of the uncapped year may be applied only to a player with six years of service. Rice has only four.
    that sucks
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Re: Vikings face potential talent drain this offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1090008
    I think that the KAO has skewed peoples perception of Rice due to the fact that the WR's have been so piss poor that any production looks fantastic.

    In 4 seasons Rice has 146 catches for a little over 2100 yards and 18 TD's. His best single season was 83 catches for 1300 yards and 8 td's.

    Now that is decent production for sure, but not the kind of numbers I would throw the checkbook at considering the other 3 years were very very pedestrian.

    If he had tied a few years together with the sort of production that he had in 2009 then I would feel different. I like Rice and hope he does well. If the Vikings do sign him I will be happy because I have always like the way he plays when healthy, but if the team sees a risk and decides to go another direction it won't bother me either.
    thats the bottom line, Rice has been the only WR on the team but even his figures don't warrant he his agent will think he is worth. If he goes then we may be able to get two average receivers in his place, at least that will give the QB two options instead of just the one - so the offense will have improved immediately :laugh:
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